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Title: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: Cal8301 on May 07, 2012, 07:55:02 AM

UR Controlled Burn

75 cards, 15 sideboard


4 {Arid Mesa}
3 {Island}
2 {Misty Rainforest}
3 {Mountain}
4 {Scalding Tarn}
4 {Volcanic Island}
20 lands


4 {Delver of Secrets}
4 {Vexing Devil}
4 {Grim Lavamancer}
3 {Snapcaster Mage}
15 creatures


3 {Force of Will}
4 {Chain Lightning}
2 {Temporal Mastery}
2 {Ponder}
4 {Brainstorm}
3 {Stifle}
4 {Lightning Bolt}
3 {Price of Progress}
25 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Sulfuric Vortex}
3 {Submerge}
2 {Pyroblast}
2 {Smash to Smithereens}
1 {Force of Will}
1 {Price of Progress}
4 {Surgical Extraction}
15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: Cal8301 on May 07, 2012, 07:56:36 AM
I'm not sure but I think stifle stops the vexing devil effect and if it does it makes this deck dirty.
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: cltrn81 on May 07, 2012, 08:27:20 AM
Quote from: Cal8301 on May 07, 2012, 07:56:36 AM
I'm not sure but I think stifle stops the vexing devil effect and if it does it makes this deck dirty.

You think 2 cards is worth a vanilla 4/3?  I don't mean to sound pessimistic but I would rather {stifle} their fetch lands or {stoneforge mystic}.  I would also recommend 4 {daze} -1 {grim lavamancer} -2 {ponder} and maybe -1 {vexing devil}.  Just a suggestion but the lower creature count helps flip delver.
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: Dudecore on May 07, 2012, 11:03:39 AM
I just don't love {vexing devil}, if it gives players the choice, they'll choose what's best for them.
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: Cal8301 on May 07, 2012, 01:04:29 PM
The stifles are there for all the above and stoping storm and marcial cards the fact that it works on the devil is a extra because u use it after they decided to trigger the effect so If they say they will lose the life you know they have no way to deal with him and it's worth the stifle also more daze would hose you on land count and in this format with wastelands and such you can't take the extra turn drops.
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: #noided on May 07, 2012, 01:49:33 PM
Quote from: Cal8301 on May 07, 2012, 01:04:29 PM
The stifles are there for all the above and stoping storm and marcial cards the fact that it works on the devil is a extra because u use it after they decided to trigger the effect so If they say they will lose the life you know they have no way to deal with him and it's worth the stifle also more daze would hose you on land count and in this format with wastelands and such you can't take the extra turn drops.

{Stifle} doesn't stop {Vexing Devil} from triggering fyi.
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: Cal8301 on May 07, 2012, 03:29:54 PM
Why
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: Cal8301 on May 07, 2012, 03:33:21 PM
I just read the other forms and you can stifle the vexing devil
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: #noided on May 07, 2012, 06:20:46 PM
My bad :P Ignore my previous post :X
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: BlackJester on May 09, 2012, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: Cal8301 on May 07, 2012, 01:04:29 PM
The stifles are there for all the above and stoping storm and marcial cards the fact that it works on the devil is a extra because u use it after they decided to trigger the effect so If they say they will lose the life you know they have no way to deal with him and it's worth the stifle also more daze would hose you on land count and in this format with wastelands and such you can't take the extra turn drops.
if you {Stifle} Sexy Devil, they won't take any damage. {Torpor Orb} works too, and hoses a lot of other cards.
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: Greg54js on May 09, 2012, 03:20:26 PM
What about {goblin guide}?
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: Cal8301 on May 09, 2012, 05:44:27 PM
I feel gg nets your opponent to much for something that only lasts a turn or two. Don't get me wrong it's a good card but the devil is way better in this type of deck. Also I know that it would stop the damage because it's all part of one effect. Put I'm glad u pointed it out cause some people might have been confused on how I worded it.
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: BlackJester on May 09, 2012, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 07, 2012, 11:03:39 AM
I just don't love {vexing devil}, if it gives players the choice, they'll choose what's best for them.
They do get a choice, but it's like choosing either to get kicked in the nuts or jabbed in the eye. Neither choice is good (for them), especially for (R).
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: Cal8301 on May 10, 2012, 07:38:10 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on May 09, 2012, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 07, 2012, 11:03:39 AM
I just don't love {vexing devil}, if it gives players the choice, they'll choose what's best for them.
They do get a choice, but it's like choosing either to get kicked in the nuts or jabbed in the eye. Neither choice is good (for them), especially for (R).

And with stifle its with out the lube.
Title: Re: UR Controlled Burn
Post by: BlackJester on May 10, 2012, 11:04:34 AM
Quote from: Cal8301 on May 10, 2012, 07:38:10 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on May 09, 2012, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 07, 2012, 11:03:39 AM
I just don't love {vexing devil}, if it gives players the choice, they'll choose what's best for them.
They do get a choice, but it's like choosing either to get kicked in the nuts or jabbed in the eye. Neither choice is good (for them), especially for (R).

And with stifle its with out the lube.
With {Stifle} they just don't get a choice.  They get stabbed in the eye, end of story.
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