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Stoneblade 68 cards, 8 sideboard 3 {Seachrome Coast} 2 {Reflecting Pool} 3 {Glacial Fortress} 3 {Adarkar Wastes} 6 {Plains} 4 {Island} 21 lands 3 {Geist of Saint Traft} 3 {Stoneforge Mystic} 3 {Serra Avenger} 3 {Mother of Runes} 3 {Thalia, Guardian of Thraben} 3 {Spiketail Hatchling} 3 {Spiketail Drakeling} 21 creatures 1 {Sword of War and Peace} 1 {Umezawa's Jitte} 1 {Batterskull} 2 {Enlightened Tutor} 3 {Æther Vial} 4 {Standstill} 3 {Daze} 3 {Spell Pierce} 18 other spells Sideboard 1 {Sword of Fire and Ice} 1 {Sword of Feast and Famine} 3 {Path to Exile} 3 {Swords to Plowshares} 8 sideboard cards

{spell pierce} is a nice add.  I am considering adding those plus {force of will} and {daze} to mine.  I will run the risk of giving my opponent the benefit of {standstill} but it is a risk that I think is worth it.  The spiketails and {aether vial} are just not fast enough to get rid of those early threats.  Besides the {standstill} can be played after I counter the first good card they drop and then rely on the spiketails with {aether vial}.

How's that?

Quote from: Elitehalo360 on May 06, 2012, 01:19:50 PM
How's that?

The wording on {standstill} says play a spell not casts a spell.  Therefore it will not resolve until the spell resolves.  So of you counter their spell you will start another standstill trigger and they will draw 3.

Is that what your asking?

Quote from: cltrn81 on May 06, 2012, 01:30:33 PM

Quote from: Elitehalo360 on May 06, 2012, 01:19:50 PM
How's that?

The wording on {standstill} says play a spell not casts a spell.  Therefore it will not resolve until the spell resolves.  So of you counter their spell you will start another standstill trigger and they will draw 3.

Is that what your asking?

Well the wording makes it sound like you can place it sacrificing in response to them casting then countering their spell giving you the draw and them getting counter or it's effect happens immidatly after a spell is played and you casting a counter won't effect who draws

Oracle text on {Standstill} is casts a spell. The point is to have the vial out, and since it puts creatures from your hand onto the battlefield, it doesn't trigger. {Mutavault} doesnt trigger either. Besides that, {standstill} will pretty much trigger any other way. Unless you mulligan down to 6 or less cards and it happens to be in your hand, it's difficult to avoid triggering it.

I'm confused @.@

Gonna consult the jester on this one

Okays

Quote from: cltrn81 on May 06, 2012, 04:32:11 PM
Gonna consult the jester on this one

Well it makes sense since opponent casts a spell, trigger to sac standstill goes on the stack next, last in first out tells us the standstill trigger resolves first, so now you just wait till standstill trigger resolves and cast your counter for opponents spell still on the stack.

Quote from: cltrn81 on May 06, 2012, 05:22:55 PM

Quote from: cltrn81 on May 06, 2012, 04:32:11 PM
Gonna consult the jester on this one

Well it makes sense since opponent casts a spell, trigger to sac standstill goes on the stack next, last in first out tells us the standstill trigger resolves first, so now you just wait till standstill trigger resolves and cast your counter for opponents spell still on the stack.

So I was right :o

I always heard it the other way around so.....

Lol I also play against ppl who top at ptqs and grand prix like 8 of my shops ppl went and 5 of them mad it to day two lol and we have 2 level one judges so I get an earful everytime I'm wrong XD

Ask them the standstill question and see what they say.  Let me know ;)

Quote from: cltrn81 on May 06, 2012, 11:14:53 PM
Ask them the standstill question and see what they say.  Let me know ;)

Ight :)

Was/am I right?

Whoever castes a spell with standstill in play will trigger it, and there opponent will draw three cards