THIS IS NOT A REAL TRADE YET!
What would you guys trade out of the new series for these two cards? (I need a reference point)
Probably a couple of my children.
Quote from: Cakeisfun on May 02, 2012, 11:46:20 PM
THIS IS NOT A REAL TRADE YET!
What would you guys trade out of the new series for these two cards? (I need a reference point)
Nothing. Those are the only 2 money cards in the set. Anyone who thinks {Temporal Mastery} is gonna be the next best thing since sliced bread is fooling themselves. That card will go down in value. So....in this instance, I would either hold on to them if you plan on playing standard or trade them for some legacy staples.
Quote from: Death Gaara on May 02, 2012, 11:49:05 PM
Quote from: Cakeisfun on May 02, 2012, 11:46:20 PM
THIS IS NOT A REAL TRADE YET!
What would you guys trade out of the new series for these two cards? (I need a reference point)
Nothing. Those are the only 2 money cards in the set. Anyone who thinks {Temporal Mastery} is gonna be the next best thing since sliced bread is fooling themselves. That card will go down in value. So....in this instance, I would either hold on to them if you plan on playing standard or trade them for some legacy staples.
Nice tip, but like I said, all I would like is a reference point (no one near where I live plays legacy, it's all standard)
I would trade a sword of war and peace for one and a feast ad famine for the other or well wait that'd put me about 10 short I think If you have anything that'd make that difference and want the swords pm me
Dude temporal mastery is amazing it will save your ass everytime! I have 2 from prerelease and my deck which is black blue heartless runs amazing with it. Everytime I have played I get a gureenteed with because you just can't deal with it
Quote from: Onenation55 on May 03, 2012, 12:31:25 AM
Dude temporal mastery is amazing it will save your ass everytime! I have 2 from prerelease and my deck which is black blue heartless runs amazing with it. Everytime I have played I get a gureenteed with because you just can't deal with it
What I cant deal with a blue rampant growth? The card is terrible in standard and is overhyped. Your extra turn does nothing in standard. You get one more land and get to swing again. If you build your deck around that card to just get its miracle cost, you leave yourself open to be destroyed by any deck that applies event the slightest pressure.
I don't think it's good for a play set but as a one of its not too bad.
Quote from: Richardalcala on May 03, 2012, 12:59:12 AM
I don't think it's good for a play set but as a one of its not too bad.
2 is the correct number to play. 1 you will never see it, 2 you will probably not see it in the opening hand but are more likely to draw into it. But here is my point, give me a scenario where temporal mastery is a good play in standard.
playing temporal mastery, then reforge the soul Next turn playing temporal mastery into another forge of souls, play temporal master into another forge of souls.
Quote from: Willthomjr on May 03, 2012, 01:08:25 AM
playing temporal mastery, then reforge the soul Next turn playing temporal mastery into another forge of souls, play temporal master into another forge of souls.
And you are supposed to pay 12 mana for this marginal effect on the game state? You do realize that the scenario you gave me does absolutely nothing to the games state right? Plus to get the miracle cost on temporal, the you must draw it after you draw your 7 off of the reforge correct? And all the while even if you did get those crazy odds and mana you do absolutely nothing to the board. I would rather just slam down a titan or two and kill my opponent for all the trouble its worth in your scenario.
Quote from: Death Gaara on May 03, 2012, 01:16:00 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on May 03, 2012, 01:08:25 AM
playing temporal mastery, then reforge the soul Next turn playing temporal mastery into another forge of souls, play temporal master into another forge of souls.
And you are supposed to pay 12 mana for this marginal effect on the game state? You do realize that the scenario you gave me does absolutely nothing to the games state right? Plus to get the miracle cost on temporal, the you must draw it after you draw your 7 off of the reforge correct? And all the while even if you did get those crazy odds and mana you do absolutely nothing to the board. I would rather just slam down a titan or two and kill my opponent for all the trouble its worth in your scenario.
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Yeah but if you have a burn deck, all those turns will help.
(I was just trollin about my comment. Yøū seem to have a strong opinion of how this card isn't that great. You've made your point and I wanted to catch you up in it 😜)
Quote from: Willthomjr on May 03, 2012, 01:23:40 AM
Yeah but if you have a burn deck, all those turns will help.
(I was just trollin about my comment. Yøū seem to have a strong opinion of how this card isn't that great. You've made your point and I wanted to catch you up in it 😜)
Sorry but you even failed to catch me up in my point. Furthermore, if I am playing a burn deck, I dont want to pay 12 mana a turn to draw a bunch of cards and just discard them. Seriously, if you are paying 12 mana to do this loop, how are you going to have mana for your other spells during these turns?
Im not talking about playing it all In one turn.
I'll break it down for you.
My turn.
"look" temporal mastery
I play it.
Next turn I have I get a reforge the soul miracle
I play it
Draw a full hand and play mastery hard cost and some other burn spells
Next turn miracle reforge the soul. Get a temporal mastery and hard cast it. Etc.
This is a ridiculous probability of it all could happen yea, I'm laughing while typing.
So I'm not talking about 1 turn like you thought I was saying.
Quote from: Willthomjr on May 03, 2012, 01:32:25 AM
Im not talking about playing it all In one turn.
I'll break it down for you.
My turn.
"look" temporal mastery
I play it.
Next turn I have I get a reforge the soul miracle
I play it
Draw a full hand and play mastery hard cost and some other burn spells
Next turn miracle reforge the soul. Get a temporal mastery and hard cast it. Etc.
This is a ridiculous probability of it all could happen yea, I'm laughing while typing.
So I'm not talking about 1 turn like you thought I was saying.
So for 9 mana (big difference), you still do absolutely nothing and have no mana for your turns. Each turn you perform said loop you gain 1 mana if you make your land drop. That means the first time you do this you have 0 mana. The second you have 1 mana (cant do much with that), the 3rd time you do it you have 2 open mana (still cant do much). And if by some divine miracle you get this to work 4 times in a row you have 3 mana open on that turn. You cant do much with this.
EDIT: Anytime you hardcast temporal, you are not going to have any mana to do anything else.
I think {temporal mastery}'s real power is unleashed in Legacy where other cards help abuse it more effectively.
Quote from: Cakeisfun on May 02, 2012, 11:46:20 PM
THIS IS NOT A REAL TRADE YET!
What would you guys trade out of the new series for these two cards? (I need a reference point)
Nothing yet, I wanna see where prices go
Isn't this about the moon sage and Cavern? Why did everyon start fighting about temporal mastery...?
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 03, 2012, 08:04:52 AM
Isn't this about the moon sage and Cavern? Why did everyon start fighting about temporal mastery...?
Thank you, I was about to say that.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 03, 2012, 08:04:52 AM
Isn't this about the moon sage and Cavern? Why did everyon start fighting about temporal mastery...?
Lol
Quote from: cltrn81 on May 03, 2012, 06:54:42 AM
I think {temporal mastery}'s real power is unleashed in Legacy where other cards help abuse it more effectively.
^This, temporal is beyond stellar in legacy (see my article discussing the card for more info). But in standard, it does not do enough. What I was trying to state is this.....the only other money card in this set is Temporal Mastery. My point is, it is not worth the money (the OP asked for other cards from the "new set"). When I trade I trade for value. Temporal Mastery is bound to go down in price. I was telling the OP to save those 2 if he is going to play standard, or sell/trade them for legacy staples which will never fall in price (Unlike the Mastery). So my advice was simply, trade your Tamiyo for some Vials, Tops, or fetchlands that will maintain value. Or if modern and other eternal formats are not your thing, save them for standard.