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Title: CardboardRage
Post by: Taysby on June 14, 2016, 11:37:56 PM
Trading on CardboardRage is now live.  If you use puca, you'll like this a lot more.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 15, 2016, 12:56:55 AM
Cool.

Now convince me to get into it.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 15, 2016, 02:46:24 AM
Wanna explain how it works?
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Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 16, 2016, 01:18:49 AM
What do you have to stop scams and the like?

How are you sure you won't get hit by inflation?

How are you making money on this? What does it cost me?

I'm seriously interested, just wanna iron it out and get my cards together...
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Rothsteine on June 16, 2016, 03:55:11 AM
Do people currently have points? If no one starts out with any, how are we supposed to trade. Who get the points? Are we sending cards to your store, and then you give us points, which can be redeemed in the store, or with other users? Or is it a different than the way I just mentioned?
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: mickeven on June 16, 2016, 10:27:30 AM
I like that i can use my points to buy stuff from the store itself instead of having to wait for people to send you stuff, however this is highly dependent on you having a vast inventory and how competitive your prices are. If the prices are high compared to other places i dont think its worth it. Also whats the actual amount of the  "small transaction fee"?
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: mickeven on June 16, 2016, 12:56:12 PM
good stuff
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on June 17, 2016, 02:16:38 AM
No
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on June 17, 2016, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 17, 2016, 10:55:38 AM
So what's the going rate for if I sell you 2,300 bronze sables?
$1 / lb
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 17, 2016, 03:05:56 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 17, 2016, 11:53:11 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 17, 2016, 10:55:38 AM
So what's the going rate for if I sell you 2,300 bronze sables?
$1 / lb

😂😂😂
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 17, 2016, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 17, 2016, 01:43:18 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 17, 2016, 12:20:29 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 17, 2016, 10:55:38 AM
So what's the going rate for if I sell you 2,300 bronze sables?
I think we're buying up to 50 of each common?... ;). Had to do that so you couldn't pull this on me XD
So what's the price on 50? :)

2 cents per at trade credit
1 cent per at cash
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Rothsteine on June 17, 2016, 09:09:17 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 17, 2016, 06:47:40 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 17, 2016, 06:35:53 PM
I actually found a bug on that. I think the number was 33 cents store credit and we should be buying up to 50 but at the moment it's 10

And yes, you pay shipping

So 50 sables at 33 cents store credit means 16.50 store credit?
I can swing that :)
don't bankrupt Taysby's store just yet lol.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Piotr on June 18, 2016, 06:12:27 AM
I strongly advise staying away from puca and similar ponzi-like business models.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 18, 2016, 06:52:19 PM
So you buy bulk commons...? Cause I got lots of those. xD
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Rothsteine on June 18, 2016, 10:30:43 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 18, 2016, 11:11:17 AM
Quote from: Piotr on June 18, 2016, 06:12:27 AM
I strongly advise staying away from puca and similar ponzi-like business models.
I've obtained 196 cards off of Puca worth just barely under $2600 total. Apparently it works. Well. Just saying.
I too have had extremely good experiences with. Puca
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Piotr on June 19, 2016, 04:00:46 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 18, 2016, 11:11:17 AM
Quote from: Piotr on June 18, 2016, 06:12:27 AM
I strongly advise staying away from puca and similar ponzi-like business models.
I've obtained 196 cards off of Puca worth just barely under $2600 total. Apparently it works. Well. Just saying.

I noticed that your brain capabilities never really improved since our last conversation. Please note that ponzi scheme works fantastic, and always had. Just not for the people who are not selfish pigs.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Piotr on June 19, 2016, 04:03:39 AM
Quote from: Taysby on June 18, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
Have you looked at my site?  I'm pretty sure that it doesn't fall under ponzi scheme like puca.

Not yet and I do not trust your judgement, so when you said that your product is like puca, which I understand to be a Ponzi-like long term scam, then your product is like Ponzi-like scam or you are simply wrong.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Piotr on June 19, 2016, 06:01:07 AM
Right. And I do not trust your judgement yet, so there.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 19, 2016, 07:14:10 AM
You know
Seeing how your search engine is poorly executed, how can one tell what you have Available? I can't even do a search with no parameters to yield the whole inventory. Sending you cards for credit to a store that does not show inventory....just doesn't really work
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Rothsteine on June 19, 2016, 07:42:17 AM
Quote from: Piotr on June 19, 2016, 04:03:39 AM
Quote from: Taysby on June 18, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
Have you looked at my site?  I'm pretty sure that it doesn't fall under ponzi scheme like puca.

Not yet and I do not trust your judgement, so when you said that your product is like puca, which I understand to be a Ponzi-like long term scam, then your product is like Ponzi-like scam or you are simply wrong.
but if the puca market collapsed, all the owners would have, would be Puca points, which are only good on their own cite, and thereby valueless.  So if puca trade is actually a Ponzi scheme, what's init for the owners?
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Piotr on June 19, 2016, 07:57:04 AM
Quote from: Rothsteine on June 19, 2016, 07:42:17 AMSo if puca trade is actually a Ponzi scheme, what's init for the owners?

They already have your cards.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Dstyle1 on June 19, 2016, 12:31:23 PM
I believe that is the point
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 19, 2016, 02:35:58 PM
But why doesn't it show what inventory you carry? Why not have a section called "most recent additions" showing new cards for the week?

It was very hard to navigate, I don't see why I would send cards to you for points if I have no idea what you carry
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 19, 2016, 04:17:57 PM
Or you could just have your inventory properly displayed
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: mickeven on June 19, 2016, 04:28:19 PM
with this being your biggest sale point over puca I agree with Mugz.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 19, 2016, 06:58:50 PM
You should really prioritize your search engine. Seriously, your customers shouldn't have to think about it, it should be smooth and unnoticed.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 19, 2016, 07:32:04 PM
Don't bother giving him advice; we are all buyers of magic telling him the basics and he won't take any of the information and change his platforms priorities.

I don't see how this would attract people away from pucatrade

There are not 10k+ active users trading with it
There is no idea of what can be redeemed with credit
There is nothing listing buy details on his site
No one has heard of cardboard rage
The search engine is poorly put together for mobile users
The website has poor aesthetics and it operates rather clunky and slow

So good luck with some of these huge issues with your site
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 20, 2016, 12:40:32 AM
Having your Inventory easily displayed isn't asking too much; stop playing a victim and say you're being bullied. Consider what potential customers are saying and think that maybe instead of a trade forum, maybe display what is on sale also. What inventory you have available for credit. Etc

Have you reviewed the site on all forms of phone? If someone complains about the experience of it; why not check it for yourself & see how it compares to other sites?

How to improve your search bar: less drop down, better labeling. Better results.


Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 20, 2016, 12:46:19 AM
Compare your site
To tcg
Starcitygames
Channel fireball
Toadandtroll
Etc

Compare your experiences browsing that.
Main page
Sales easily displayed
Hot items easily displayed
Game types on sidebar which lead to drop down menus
Credit breakdown

You're posting on a trade forum where many of us have shared trade secrets to get the best bang for our buck. So give us a reason to buy from you and not the rest.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Piotr on June 20, 2016, 02:49:26 AM
Quote from: Themugz on June 19, 2016, 07:32:04 PM
There are not 10k+ active users trading with it

That is already substantial base to fail on. In UK, Ltd companies are required by law to disclose their Profit & Loss each year. Is it the case in wherever puca is registered, so we can see if their business model is real or ponzi?
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Piotr on June 20, 2016, 02:53:31 AM
Quote from: Themugz on June 20, 2016, 12:46:19 AM
You're posting on a trade forum where many of us have shared trade secrets to get the best bang for our buck. So give us a reason to buy from you and not the rest.

When I'm entering a mature market, I must have a product which has minimum 2-3 features substantially better than the top competitor.

Otherwise, I think about something new, something nobody else does.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 20, 2016, 11:14:59 AM
Quote from: Taysby on June 19, 2016, 10:04:19 PM
Basically you're saying I can't succeed because I'm new. All businesses were new at one point bro.
Playing the victim here
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 20, 2016, 11:34:17 AM
It's not unrealistic to have your inventory properly displayed....
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on June 24, 2016, 02:34:21 AM
Awesome move
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Dstyle1 on June 29, 2016, 12:09:12 PM
Does anything work on this site? I have been trying do anything and all i get is a server 500 error everytime. Also I wandered into the marketplace section and it noted that a "buy also bought" section. Does this person exist or a made up  individual, due to the fact it says this person bought 4 black lotuses for like $14k. Just wondering or am I seeing it wrong?
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Piotr on July 03, 2016, 02:31:45 AM
Quote from: Themugz on June 19, 2016, 07:32:04 PM
Don't bother giving him advice; we are all buyers of magic telling him the basics and he won't take any of the information and change his platforms priorities.

You don't know this so you are making a fool of yourself acting as if you do know this.

The realities of running a startup business are: LIMITED RESOURCES and EXTERNAL FACTORS.

You have no idea what the Taysby person has on their TODO list, you are just projecting.

Please stop, ban this person if you must or improve your judgement.
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Piotr on July 14, 2016, 05:47:10 AM
TCGplayer.com has built their website and back-end servers over many years. It is quite mature product, to compete against them you must be quantum leap better than them in at least one aspect of the business. Which one is it?
Title: Re: CardboardRage
Post by: Themugz on July 14, 2016, 06:57:10 PM
The difference in viewing your entire stock was huge

Pending sales of a pair of dark confidants and a scalding tarn, I'd be interested in buying from you as your inventory is reasonably priced and knowing the average market price, I can see it is the best option for myself as a buyer.

Kudos to you for hearing out what a customer is interested in and making that feature available. That alone will help your business succeed!