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Title: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Nobbert on April 29, 2012, 07:47:49 PM
{tandem lookout} + {goblin fireslinger}
Tap the goblin on your opponent's turn, hope for a miracle!
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: scarsabrex on April 29, 2012, 09:06:04 PM
nonbo combat damage only
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Nobbert on April 29, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on April 29, 2012, 09:06:04 PM
nonbo combat damage only

Uh no, read the card
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: scarsabrex on April 29, 2012, 09:10:31 PM
oops wow... that's surprising
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Nobbert on April 29, 2012, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on April 29, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on April 29, 2012, 09:06:04 PM
nonbo combat damage only

Uh no, read the card.  Thanks for the arrogance though.
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: scarsabrex on April 29, 2012, 09:13:32 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on April 29, 2012, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on April 29, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on April 29, 2012, 09:06:04 PM
nonbo combat damage only

Uh no, read the card.  Thanks for the arrogance though.

thanks for the hostility?
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Nobbert on April 29, 2012, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on April 29, 2012, 09:13:32 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on April 29, 2012, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on April 29, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on April 29, 2012, 09:06:04 PM
nonbo combat damage only

Uh no, read the card.  Thanks for the arrogance though.

thanks for the hostility?
You're welcome. Feel free to shoot more ideas down without doing any research.
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: scarsabrex on April 29, 2012, 09:21:08 PM
i was under the assumptiom tandem lookout worked like {ophidian} and {curiosity} there research
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Rass on April 29, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
Ok but how does this set up your miracle
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: scarsabrex on April 29, 2012, 09:27:59 PM
Quote from: Rass on April 29, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
Ok but how does this set up your miracle

it doesn't you hope for it to be a mitacle
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Nobbert on April 29, 2012, 09:29:45 PM
Quote from: Rass on April 29, 2012, 09:25:49 PM
Ok but how does this set up your miracle
It will be the first card you draw that turn. Get rid of an opponent's fatty with {vanishment}
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 29, 2012, 10:04:26 PM
I get it, but than again, if you're playing with them you'll always be praying for a miracle.
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Nobbert on April 29, 2012, 10:09:15 PM
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 29, 2012, 10:04:26 PM
I get it, but than again, if you're playing with them you'll always be praying for a miracle.
I admit this yes but of not a miricke then you can still pull a number of helpful instants and have a card advantage. And do damage.
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Sagemaster on April 29, 2012, 10:11:46 PM
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 29, 2012, 10:04:26 PM
I get it, but than again, if you're playing with them you'll always be praying for a miracle.
There are at least 4⃣red and blue...I can think of wrath, mastery, bonfire and ⬆⬆⬆⬆ play multiple copies and you're golden
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Fenster on April 30, 2012, 04:13:04 AM
Quote from: scarsabrex on April 29, 2012, 09:21:08 PM
i was under the assumptiom tandem lookout worked like {ophidian} and {curiosity} there research

{Curiosity} works exactly the same way.
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: KulrathKnight on April 30, 2012, 09:20:19 AM
{Curiosity} + {Psionic Gift}. Unless you rearrange the cards in your deck, the combo you listed just gives you draw-power. So does this combo. Is that what you meant by "easy Miracle setup" is just an extra draw on the opponent's turn?
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: cltrn81 on April 30, 2012, 09:23:01 AM
Quote from: KulrathKnight on April 30, 2012, 09:20:19 AM
{Curiosity} + {Psionic Gift}. Unless you rearrange the cards in your deck, the combo you listed just gives you draw-power. So does this combo. Is that what you meant by "easy Miracle setup" is just an extra draw on the opponent's turn?

{quicksilver dagger}
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: KulrathKnight on April 30, 2012, 09:27:52 AM
I didn't know there was a card with both of those built in basically 😂
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Nobbert on April 30, 2012, 11:53:42 AM
Well my combo is standard so...
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Maximo on April 30, 2012, 11:54:21 AM
{Jar of Eyeballs}, and it's standard too

Actually never mind, that doesn't work. Go back to {Forbidden Alchemy} plus {Noxious Revival}
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: BlackJester on April 30, 2012, 11:57:33 AM
I wouldn't really call this "miracle set-up" so much as "ridiculous card advantage".  You want miracle setup, use {Noxious Revival} or {Reclaim}.
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: BlackJester on April 30, 2012, 01:56:17 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on April 30, 2012, 12:23:19 PM
{Ponder} and {Preordain} can help. {Liliana Vess}'s second ability would be a good setup as well
Are we talking Standard, or open the floodgates for Modern?  And {Ponder} isn't as stellar as some people think in this scenario.
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: scarsabrex on April 30, 2012, 03:26:44 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on April 30, 2012, 11:53:42 AM
Well my combo is standard so...

curiosity and fireslinger are as well and cost less
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 30, 2012, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: Sagemaster on April 29, 2012, 10:11:46 PM
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 29, 2012, 10:04:26 PM
I get it, but than again, if you're playing with them you'll always be praying for a miracle.
There are at least 4⃣red and blue...I can think of wrath, mastery, bonfire and ⬆⬆⬆⬆ play multiple copies and you're golden
After seeing miracles in action the last thing I want to do is pack a deck with them, I'd hate to draw even one in my opening hand.
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: BlackJester on April 30, 2012, 05:17:51 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on April 30, 2012, 03:26:44 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on April 30, 2012, 11:53:42 AM
Well my combo is standard so...

curiosity and fireslinger are as well and cost less
True, but if they kill your wee Mogg, they just 241 you. The original combo uses two creatures, and if the goblin dies, you can soulbond again.
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: scarsabrex on April 30, 2012, 05:24:55 PM
but they'll go for the lookout unless we're talking about low level burn
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: BlackJester on April 30, 2012, 05:51:26 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on April 30, 2012, 05:24:55 PM
but they'll go for the lookout unless we're talking about low level burn
Of course, but at least theyll be trading one for one.
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Chewified on April 30, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
Also miracle requires it to be the first card drawn that turn which may not be the case 100% of the time.
Title: Re: Easy Miracle setup
Post by: Nobbert on May 01, 2012, 07:32:56 AM
Quote from: Chewified on April 30, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
Also miracle requires it to be the first card drawn that turn which may not be the case 100% of the time.
The whole point of this combo is giving you an easy card draw on their turn