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Title: Burning sands and void
Post by: redwolv on May 12, 2016, 11:58:42 PM
{Burning sands} + {leyline of the void}
What happens?
Title: Re: Burning sands and void
Post by: Prplprince on May 13, 2016, 12:45:11 AM
If I'm reading the oracles right. A creature will die, Sands will trigger putting its ability on the stack and then leyline with replace the location to exile. So end result dead creature, saced land, dead creature in exile

Edit: "whenever a creature is put into a graveyard" is a fancy way to say die which is what the oracles have "changed" then too
Title: Re: Burning sands and void
Post by: redwolv on May 13, 2016, 12:58:10 AM
I actually found a rule long that says leyline makes it so death triggers never happen
Title: Re: Burning sands and void
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on May 13, 2016, 06:41:45 AM
Yeah the definition of 'die' is 'be put into the graveyard from the battlefield'. If the creature never hits the graveyard then it never actually dies.
Title: Re: Burning sands and void
Post by: Co2 on May 13, 2016, 06:47:10 AM
Remplacment effect are always annoying.
But llama is right. The creature will never hit the graveyard. So no land shall be sac'ed.
In this case i would like to add : unless you control the creature.

We assume you control both
{Burning sands} + {leyline of the void}

Because things will be different il leyline was controlled by your opponent
Title: Re: Burning sands and void
Post by: redwolv on May 13, 2016, 11:04:20 AM
Quote from: Co2 on May 13, 2016, 06:47:10 AM
Remplacment effect are always annoying.
But llama is right. The creature will never hit the graveyard. So no land shall be sac'ed.
In this case i would like to add : unless you control the creature.

We assume you control both
{Burning sands} + {leyline of the void}

Because things will be different il leyline was controlled by your opponent
Yes, I owned both, it was my {mogis, the God of slaughter} edh deck. After learning this I think I am gonna cut void from it. Breaks to many of my enchantments
Title: Re: Burning sands and void
Post by: Kaylesh on May 13, 2016, 11:13:08 AM
Quote from: redwolv on May 13, 2016, 11:04:20 AM
Quote from: Co2 on May 13, 2016, 06:47:10 AM
Remplacment effect are always annoying.
But llama is right. The creature will never hit the graveyard. So no land shall be sac'ed.
In this case i would like to add : unless you control the creature.

We assume you control both
{Burning sands} + {leyline of the void}

Because things will be different il leyline was controlled by your opponent
Yes, I owned both, it was my {mogis, the God of slaughter} edh deck. After learning this I think I am gonna cut void from it. Breaks to many of my enchantments
Yeah, together they make quite a nasty nombo for yourself, as you'll be the only player affected.
Title: Re: Burning sands and void
Post by: redwolv on May 13, 2016, 12:15:46 PM
Not only that but it ruins a lot of other effects like {black market}