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Title: Astral slide + unearth
Post by: Co2 on May 06, 2016, 09:09:13 PM
Well does unearthed créature will come back from exile if i astral slide them?
Ive checked a little bit on the forum of gatherer but i would like to get a confirmation here.
Title: Re: Astral slide + unearth
Post by: Nymuera on May 07, 2016, 03:40:36 PM
Quote from: Co2 on May 06, 2016, 09:09:13 PM
Well does unearthed créature will come back from exile if i {astral slide} them?
Ive checked a little bit on the forum of gatherer but i would like to get a confirmation here.
Title: Re: Astral slide + unearth
Post by: Remillo on May 07, 2016, 03:56:05 PM
It will come back.  Unearth only exiles due to it's own ability if the creature would go anywhere /except/ exile.  This is the same interaction that made {Obzedat, Ghost Council} so good with {Whip of Erebos}
Title: Re: Astral slide + unearth
Post by: Co2 on May 08, 2016, 12:12:06 PM
Ok to form it with my words:

It does come back because the replacement effect on a unearthed creature does not trigger. Since the card go to exile anyway.

As for the second part of the unearth ability " put in into exile at the beginning of the next end step" this one does not trigger since the creature that come back with astral slide is a new object.

Finally, i could answer to the second part of the unearth ability by exiling my own creature after the ability of unearthed goes on the stack.

i hope this right, otherwise i have to rethink my deck entirely.
Title: Re: Astral slide + unearth
Post by: Prplprince on May 08, 2016, 01:20:29 PM
You can think of the replacement exile effects like the interaction with {Ætherling} and {Sneak Attack} or {Whip of Erebos}. At the end of turn you if you use Ætherling's ability you can stack the exile ability in such a way you wouldn't need to sac to sneak attack and whip will still be satisfied by exile. So you can replace {Astral Slide} with an Ætherling's effect
Title: Re: Astral slide + unearth
Post by: Co2 on May 08, 2016, 02:47:12 PM
Oooo yeah^^ any blink effect would be great here in fact.
Title: Re: Astral slide + unearth
Post by: Prplprince on May 08, 2016, 03:44:17 PM
Quote from: Co2 on May 08, 2016, 02:47:12 PM
Oooo yeah^^ any blink effect would be great here in fact.

Yup I learned how good that is when I got Ætherling bombed in a cube draft with  {Sneak Attack}... He also had a freaking {Griselbrand}
Title: Re: Astral slide + unearth
Post by: Co2 on May 08, 2016, 07:50:48 PM
Thats a good (or not) way to remember rules
Title: Re: Astral slide + unearth
Post by: Prplprince on May 08, 2016, 08:28:09 PM
Quote from: Co2 on May 08, 2016, 07:50:48 PM
Thats a good (or not) way to remember rules

Losing is a great teacher