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Title: Veteran Warleader
Post by: imFourth of Phils on March 28, 2016, 12:50:36 PM
i have {Veteran Warleader} and other x4 2/2 creatures, so 5/5 V.Wleader

if opponent casts {Radiant Flames} for 3

the veteran would be dead or alive?

thanks
Title: Re: Veteran Warleader
Post by: Remillo on March 28, 2016, 01:15:56 PM
What will happen is this:

Radiant Flames deals 3 damage to each creature.
State-Based Actions see four 2/2 creatures with 3 damage marked on them, and destroys them as a result.
State-Based Actions are checked again and sees the now 1/1 Warleader with 3 damage marked and destroys it, too.
Title: Re: Veteran Warleader
Post by: imFourth of Phils on March 28, 2016, 01:20:55 PM
Quote from: Remillo on March 28, 2016, 01:15:56 PM
What will happen is this:

Radiant Flames deals 3 damage to each creature.
State-Based Actions see four 2/2 creatures with 3 damage marked on them, and destroys them as a result.
State-Based Actions are checked again and sees the now 1/1 Warleader with 3 damage marked and destroys it, too.

thanks
Title: Re: Veteran Warleader
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on March 28, 2016, 01:30:46 PM
Would the same apply if there was an  {Aegis Angel} giving the  {Veteran Warleader} Indestructible?
Title: Re: Veteran Warleader
Post by: Remillo on March 28, 2016, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on March 28, 2016, 01:30:46 PM
Would the same apply if there was an  {Aegis Angel} giving the  {Veteran Warleader} Indestructible?

If you control the Angel and the Warleader and your opponent casts, say, {Blasphemous Act}, it's the same sort of situation.

B.Act deals 13 to each creature
SBAs kill the Angel for having taken Lethal Damage.
Because Indestructible doesn't make damage not be marked (it just makes Lethal Damage not do anything) and your Warleader is no longer indestructible, SBA kill it for having taken lethal damage.
Title: Re: Veteran Warleader
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on March 28, 2016, 01:45:48 PM
Quote from: Remillo on March 28, 2016, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on March 28, 2016, 01:30:46 PM
Would the same apply if there was an  {Aegis Angel} giving the  {Veteran Warleader} Indestructible?


If you control the Angel and the Warleader and your opponent casts, say, {Blasphemous Act}, it's the same sort of situation.

B.Act deals 13 to each creature
SBAs kill the Angel for having taken Lethal Damage.
Because Indestructible doesn't make damage not be marked (it just makes Lethal Damage not do anything) and your Warleader is no longer indestructible, SBA kill it for having taken lethal damage.
Ok I see. Thank you :)