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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: DirtyMustachio on February 27, 2016, 01:42:11 AM

Title: Liliana loyalty
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 27, 2016, 01:42:11 AM
{Liliana, heretical healer}
If she's at loyalty 1 can I use her minus to get whatever Cmc creature like {reality smasher} I want because she's going to die anyway
Title: Re: Liliana loyalty
Post by: Indianslayer on February 27, 2016, 02:26:59 AM
No you cannot. It's similar to the life principle where you can't pay more life than what you actually have. In this case, you can't remove more loyalty counter than what are actually on the planeswalker
Title: Re: Liliana loyalty
Post by: Kaylesh on February 27, 2016, 03:47:10 AM
In this instance, you decide the value of X when you pay the cost. As stated by Indianslayer, you cannot pay a cost if the counters aren't there. As such, the only legal choice for X is 1.
Title: Re: Liliana loyalty
Post by: Kaylesh on February 27, 2016, 09:39:34 AM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on February 27, 2016, 08:42:48 AM
or 0 if they have {ornithopter} or {memnite} or {shield wall} or {dryad arbor} hahaha
Yeah, true. 0 or 1 indeed.