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Title: life gain
Post by: imFourth of Phils on February 20, 2016, 05:37:17 PM
i have 3 {Kalastria Healer} in battlefield

i play {Cliffhaven Vampire}

should they lose 6 life and i gain 6 life?

or lose 4 gain 4?
Title: Re: life gain
Post by: imFourth of Phils on February 20, 2016, 07:55:25 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 20, 2016, 05:54:25 PM
6
All three healers trigger
Then as tou gain the life, they lose it again

thank you

oh, follow up

all four in play, i cast another ally, say {Expedition Envoy}
Title: Re: life gain
Post by: redwolv on February 20, 2016, 08:01:35 PM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on February 20, 2016, 07:55:25 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 20, 2016, 05:54:25 PM
6
All three healers trigger
Then as tou gain the life, they lose it again

thank you

oh, follow up

all four in play, i cast another ally, say {Expedition Envoy}

3damage, 3heal, from healers
Another 3 damage from cliff.
Title: Re: life gain
Post by: imFourth of Phils on February 20, 2016, 08:05:40 PM
Quote from: redwolv on February 20, 2016, 08:01:35 PM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on February 20, 2016, 07:55:25 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 20, 2016, 05:54:25 PM
6
All three healers trigger
Then as tou gain the life, they lose it again

thank you

oh, follow up

all four in play, i cast another ally, say {Expedition Envoy}

3damage, 3heal, from healers
Another 3 damage from cliff.

thank you
Title: Re: life gain
Post by: Stolen711 on February 24, 2016, 09:54:00 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on February 20, 2016, 05:37:17 PM
i have 3 {Kalastria Healer} in battlefield

i play {Cliffhaven Vampire}

should they lose 6 life and i gain 6 life?

or lose 4 gain 4?
To be clear on this, in the situation above you would gain 3 and they would lose 6. The vamp does no make you gain life.
Title: Re: life gain
Post by: Kaylesh on February 25, 2016, 06:19:02 AM
What often helps me solve these sort of things is take them step-by-step. What happens?
- 3 {kalastria healer}s on the field.
- you cast {cliff haven vampire}.
- vampire resolves, enters the battlefield
- healers trigger: 3x(gain 1, opponent loses 1)
- as the vampire is on the battlefield at that point, it triggers off the gain, opponent loses 3x1 more.
After that, any ally that enters follows the same sequence.