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Title: Degenerate combos
Post by: Controlfrk on February 17, 2016, 09:25:24 PM
What is the most degenerate combo deck in commander that is also pretty consistent, the deck can contain more than a few combos
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: blackychan1 on February 17, 2016, 09:38:18 PM
Probably {animar, soul of the artifacts} or Taysbys {narset, enlightened master}.
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: An Angry Fatman on February 19, 2016, 02:43:23 PM
{Boros Charm}, {Blasphemous Act} and {Armageddon}. Pretty crappy when played on you...
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: An Angry Fatman on February 19, 2016, 02:44:07 PM
That being said, deffinatly {Narset, Enlightened Master}
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: LinkCelestrial on February 19, 2016, 05:07:34 PM
{Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind}. Not as OP as Taysby's Narset but a combo centered {Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind} deck is disgusting.
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on February 20, 2016, 02:13:18 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on February 19, 2016, 05:07:34 PM
{Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind}. Not as OP as Taysby's Narset but a combo centered {Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind} deck is disgusting.
{Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind} +  {Enter the Infinite}.  Nuff said.
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: Prplprince on February 22, 2016, 08:32:25 PM
 {Sliver Overlord} toolbox may not be as degenerate as some of these but there are lots of combos but it boils down to:
1. making inf 1/1s with {Sliver Queen}, {Manaweft Sliver} or {Gemhide Sliver}, and {Training Grounds} or  {Heartstone}.
2. Commander damage with {Shifting Sliver} and {Sliver Legion} plus some random slivers
3.  {Virulent Sliver} and {Shifting Sliver} then sending 10 random slivers and someone. Best part of this is flashing in Virulent with  {Quick Sliver} after no blockers declared if the shifting isn't on the board.

The degeneracy happens when you just respond to anything that happens on the board and flash it in, like shroud for target removal or indestructible for board wipes. If left alone for a few turns it gets hard to stop
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: LinkCelestrial on February 23, 2016, 10:17:04 AM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on February 20, 2016, 02:13:18 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on February 19, 2016, 05:07:34 PM
{Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind}. Not as OP as Taysby's Narset but a combo centered {Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind} deck is disgusting.
{Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind} +  {Enter the Infinite}.  Nuff said.

How about {Curiosity}? Goes off alot faster. xD My version is built around "slow combos" like {Enter the Infinite} so my playgroup doesn't hate it out.
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on February 23, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
 {Lotleth Troll} +  {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}'s emblem + any creature in your hand.

Gives you infinite counters on  {Lotleth Troll} along with infinite card-entered-graveyard triggers.
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: JordanCirk on February 23, 2016, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on February 23, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
{Lotleth Troll} +  {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}'s emblem + any creature in your hand.

Gives you infinite counters on  {Lotleth Troll} along with infinite card-entered-graveyard triggers.
Pretty sure if you have a tamiyo emblem you're winning anyways
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: LinkCelestrial on February 23, 2016, 11:53:08 AM
Quote from: JordanCirk on February 23, 2016, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on February 23, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
{Lotleth Troll} +  {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}'s emblem + any creature in your hand.

Gives you infinite counters on  {Lotleth Troll} along with infinite card-entered-graveyard triggers.
Pretty sure if you have a tamiyo emblem you're winning anyways

Tamiyo emblem + {Omniscience}. Infinite anything. Truly limiltless power!
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on February 23, 2016, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on February 23, 2016, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on February 23, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
{Lotleth Troll} +  {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}'s emblem + any creature in your hand.

Gives you infinite counters on  {Lotleth Troll} along with infinite card-entered-graveyard triggers.
Pretty sure if you have a tamiyo emblem you're winning anyways
Fair enough.  I've actually beat someone who had tamiyo emblem out once. He had it then dropped  {Omniscience}.  Lucky for me I had a counter just waiting for it...
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: blackychan1 on February 23, 2016, 08:42:35 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on February 22, 2016, 08:32:25 PM
{Sliver Overlord} toolbox may not be as degenerate as some of these but there are lots of combos but it boils down to:
1. making inf 1/1s with {Sliver Queen}, {Manaweft Sliver} or {Gemhide Sliver}, and {Training Grounds} or  {Heartstone}.
2. Commander damage with {Shifting Sliver} and {Sliver Legion} plus some random slivers
3.  {Virulent Sliver} and {Shifting Sliver} then sending 10 random slivers and someone. Best part of this is flashing in Virulent with  {Quick Sliver} after no blockers declared if the shifting isn't on the board.

The degeneracy happens when you just respond to anything that happens on the board and flash it in, like shroud for target removal or indestructible for board wipes. If left alone for a few turns it gets hard to stop
{Sliver queen}+ {mana echoes} is also infinite.
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: Prplprince on February 23, 2016, 10:39:15 PM
Quote from: blackychan1 on February 23, 2016, 08:42:35 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on February 22, 2016, 08:32:25 PM
{Sliver Overlord} toolbox may not be as degenerate as some of these but there are lots of combos but it boils down to:
1. making inf 1/1s with {Sliver Queen}, {Manaweft Sliver} or {Gemhide Sliver}, and {Training Grounds} or  {Heartstone}.
2. Commander damage with {Shifting Sliver} and {Sliver Legion} plus some random slivers
3.  {Virulent Sliver} and {Shifting Sliver} then sending 10 random slivers and someone. Best part of this is flashing in Virulent with  {Quick Sliver} after no blockers declared if the shifting isn't on the board.


The degeneracy happens when you just respond to anything that happens on the board and flash it in, like shroud for target removal or indestructible for board wipes. If left alone for a few turns it gets hard to stop
{Sliver queen}+ {mana echoes} is also infinite.

Also true
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: Kaylesh on February 24, 2016, 05:14:30 AM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on February 23, 2016, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on February 23, 2016, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on February 23, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
{Lotleth Troll} +  {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}'s emblem + any creature in your hand.

Gives you infinite counters on  {Lotleth Troll} along with infinite card-entered-graveyard triggers.
Pretty sure if you have a tamiyo emblem you're winning anyways
Fair enough.  I've actually beat someone who had tamiyo emblem out once. He had it then dropped  {Omniscience}.  Lucky for me I had a counter just waiting for it...
So you killed him that next turn?
The card would go back to his hand with the emblem out.
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: griffin131 on February 24, 2016, 08:47:42 AM
Unless it was one of the exiling counters.

But yeah. Countering a spell when he has a tamiyo emblem doesn't do much.
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on February 24, 2016, 09:31:35 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on February 24, 2016, 05:14:30 AM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on February 23, 2016, 12:52:25 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on February 23, 2016, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on February 23, 2016, 10:58:46 AM
{Lotleth Troll} +  {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}'s emblem + any creature in your hand.

Gives you infinite counters on  {Lotleth Troll} along with infinite card-entered-graveyard triggers.
Pretty sure if you have a tamiyo emblem you're winning anyways
Fair enough.  I've actually beat someone who had tamiyo emblem out once. He had it then dropped  {Omniscience}.  Lucky for me I had a counter just waiting for it...
So you killed him that next turn?
The card would go back to his hand with the emblem out.
Yeah I won the next turn. Hurray for fliers!
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: MommaB on March 11, 2016, 10:45:37 PM
 {Blighted Agent}+ {Rafiq of the Many}+ {Sublime Archangel}
Title: Re: Degenerate combos
Post by: Bobbybarker on March 24, 2016, 07:38:41 AM
Animar is probably the best, but my karador boonweaver combo wins like turn 3-4 consistently.