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Title: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rass on February 08, 2016, 12:47:32 PM
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcing-eldritch-moon-2016-02-08

http://mythicspoiler.com
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Distriimuir on February 08, 2016, 02:36:31 PM
Because we didn't see this coming, shadows over innistrad( shadows over innsmuth), an now "eldritch" moon ( which is a direct reference to lovecraft). I believe we know where Emmy went and where nahiri has been. Lol. Emmy does corrupt reality which is what's happening to the moon.

All excited speculation of course. Lol
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: adventus on February 08, 2016, 05:10:40 PM
Probably see some new tomes.  Maybe equipment tomes.  Maybe some lands that are tombs or sepulchers.  Lots of artifacts I'd think.  Idols maybe
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: adventus on February 08, 2016, 05:17:22 PM
More lands that are "gate" type
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on February 08, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
TAMIYO YOU HAVE A JOB NOW.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Johng4490 on February 09, 2016, 07:58:24 AM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on February 08, 2016, 08:39:44 PM
TAMIYO YOU HAVE A JOB NOW.
Thats what I was thinking!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Johng4490 on February 09, 2016, 01:12:16 PM
So why does my Shadows over Innistrad insert from an Oath pack have Jace? No thank you.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: DirtyMustachio on February 09, 2016, 04:00:05 PM
Actually it's the moon from majoras mask and they have to fight it
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: MarduArrow on February 09, 2016, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on February 09, 2016, 04:00:05 PM
Actually it's the moon from majoras mask and they have to fight it

Made my day
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on February 09, 2016, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on February 09, 2016, 04:00:05 PM
Actually it's the moon from majoras mask and they have to fight it
That game is so dark 😟
I love it so much but every time I think about it I get such an eerie vibe.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: LinkCelestrial on February 09, 2016, 10:51:54 PM
BEN drowned.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: rarehuntertay on February 10, 2016, 11:26:26 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on February 09, 2016, 10:51:54 PM
BEN drowned.
THE END
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rass on March 25, 2016, 04:40:45 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 25, 2016, 03:47:16 PM
Full spoiler up, gotta say.. . Most flavorful set I've ever seen. Ever.

Already?
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on March 25, 2016, 06:15:38 PM
Quote from: Rass on March 25, 2016, 04:40:45 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 25, 2016, 03:47:16 PM
Full spoiler up, gotta say.. . Most flavorful set I've ever seen. Ever.

Already?
I believe he meant for SOI
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on March 28, 2016, 02:16:38 PM
I'm thinking next set will have Tamiyo, Liliana, and maaaaaaaybe Tibalt. I really doubt that it's Emmy messing up the moon. I think it's the Chain Veil causing everything. I also think we'll see another major demon in the next set. I'd like to see Garruk get fixed in the next set and see him stop killing people.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on March 28, 2016, 03:45:38 PM
If i remember right during m15 there was a lore peice on garruk apex preditor where it was sad that he has grown to like his new power and has embrassed it. He might not want to be cured.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Kaylesh on March 28, 2016, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: redwolv on March 28, 2016, 03:45:38 PM
If i remember right during m15 there was a lore peice on garruk apex preditor where it was sad that he has grown to like his new power and has embrassed it. He might not want to be cured.
Source:
http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Garruk_Wildspeaker

Garruk travelled away from Innistrad, embracing his condition. He literally told Jace he didn't want to be cured, and that he wouldn't survive their next meeting. He also killed an Innistrad inquisitor-planeswalker, Vronos, who wants to bring him back to Innistrad to be cured.
(That part of lore was covered in the M15 duels expansion, which I have played)
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on March 28, 2016, 06:04:04 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 28, 2016, 04:21:19 PM
Quote from: redwolv on March 28, 2016, 03:45:38 PM
If i remember right during m15 there was a lore peice on garruk apex preditor where it was sad that he has grown to like his new power and has embrassed it. He might not want to be cured.
Source:
http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Garruk_Wildspeaker

Garruk travelled away from Innistrad, embracing his condition. He literally told Jace he didn't want to be cured, and that he wouldn't survive their next meeting. He also killed an Innistrad inquisitor-planeswalker, Vronos, who wants to bring him back to Innistrad to be cured.
(That part of lore was covered in the M15 duels expansion, which I have played)
Thanks for the sauce.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Mattao19 on April 02, 2016, 01:07:09 AM
Lol silly Garruk you can't kill Jace bc you're GB and Jace is U so Jace auto wins :) that's how magic works right?
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Kaylesh on April 02, 2016, 02:14:37 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on April 02, 2016, 01:07:09 AM
Lol silly Garruk you can't kill Jace bc you're GB and Jace is U so Jace auto wins :) that's how magic works right?
Garruk summons a big enough  {Mistcutter Hydra}. Bye mono-blue player.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: rarehuntertay on April 02, 2016, 10:22:50 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on April 02, 2016, 09:58:48 AM
Garruk drops mistcutter for 0, everyone laughs
It dies, Jace cries
But you forget he has already been affected by  {Beastmaster Ascension}, so hydra is 5/5 and Jace really does cry bye bye bye... Byebye!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on April 02, 2016, 04:28:47 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on April 02, 2016, 10:24:33 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on April 02, 2016, 10:22:50 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on April 02, 2016, 09:58:48 AM
Garruk drops mistcutter for 0, everyone laughs
It dies, Jace cries
But you forget he has already been affected by  {Beastmaster Ascension}, so hydra is 5/5 and Jace really does cry bye bye bye... Byebye!

I almost negged you for sounded like a boy and song from the 90s, instead I'll +1 you
It might sound crazy, but Hydra's a 5/5 guy, Jacey die die die!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 17, 2016, 06:57:37 PM
So after the recent lore story I think it is safe to say that Emmy will be making an  appearance. But what I want to know, when will we start seeing spoilers? We are only a month away form prerelease with no spoilers. SOI started getting its first few months before release.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Nephalia on June 17, 2016, 09:50:44 PM
Starts on Monday with a card reveal, true spoilers start that Friday.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 20, 2016, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: Taysby on June 20, 2016, 11:26:46 AM
Emrakul confirmed for sure. He's in the lore that came out today
the card has been spoiled too

http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/emrakulthepromisedend.html
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 20, 2016, 11:30:09 AM
http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/emrakulthepromisedend.html
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 20, 2016, 11:31:20 AM
Emrakul, the Promised End
13
Legendary Creature - Eldrazi
Emrakul,the Promised End costs 1 less to cast for each card type among cards in your graveyard.

When you cast Emrakul, you gain control of target opponent during that player's next turn. After that turn, that player takes an extra turn.

Flying, trample, protection from instants.
An enigma as vexing as life itself.

Illus. Jaime Jones   13/13

Also, love the set symbol.


Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Themugz on June 20, 2016, 11:33:02 AM
Emrakul
13
Cmc

When you cast gain control of target opponents next turn
Then they take a turn after that

Cost 1 cmc less per card type in your GY

Flying trample protection from instants

13/13
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Forbidyourways on June 20, 2016, 11:34:22 AM
Artwork is cool but she's terrible I'm very disappointed
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 20, 2016, 11:58:30 AM
Nah unless you counter her, you can't even do anything for 2 turns that pro instants
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: griffin131 on June 20, 2016, 12:02:15 PM
Quote from: Forbidyourways on June 20, 2016, 11:34:22 AMArtwork is cool but she's terrible I'm very disappointed
Terrible?  Are we looking at the same card?
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Mattao19 on June 20, 2016, 12:57:51 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 20, 2016, 12:22:44 PM
Looking at it from a rg tron players view, it's awful. Seems legit for standard though

It's ok. Might see some play. Thing is, is that world breaker and Sundering Titan are both way better than Emmy. And that's where she'd slot in. But I'll be testing her a bit just to try
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Nephalia on June 20, 2016, 12:58:47 PM
I'am'rakul
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 20, 2016, 01:05:27 PM
I like the, control the player then they get a normal turn. Play her, then on their turn make unfavorable attacks, cast their removal on their own creatures, you get the chance to really screw with the "mind"(hand) of your opponent(remember lore wise we, as players, are planeswakers). Afterwards they get the chance to recover from the brain scramble if they can.

Is it the best? No.  But she sounds hell of fun.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Forbidyourways on June 20, 2016, 01:39:15 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on June 20, 2016, 12:02:15 PM
Quote from: Forbidyourways on June 20, 2016, 11:34:22 AMArtwork is cool but she's terrible I'm very disappointed
Terrible?  Are we looking at the same card?
Yes this card is not good
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 20, 2016, 01:47:39 PM
13/13 flying trample protection from Path, mindslaver for 7 or 8 mana
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rass on June 20, 2016, 02:56:05 PM
Quote from: redwolv on June 20, 2016, 01:05:27 PM
I like the, control the player then they get a normal turn. Play her, then on their turn make unfavorable attacks, cast their removal on their own creatures, you get the chance to really screw with the "mind"(hand) of your opponent(remember lore wise we, as players, are planeswakers). Afterwards they get the chance to recover from the brain scramble if they can.

Is it the best? No.  But she sounds hell of fun.

I agree. Late game people tend to hold some good cards.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 20, 2016, 04:24:20 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 20, 2016, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: mickeven on June 20, 2016, 01:47:39 PM
13/13 flying trample protection from Path, mindslaver for 7 or 8 mana

Lol what deck are you playing? ;). Tron at its absolute best would be casting for 8, IF they're already losing. Artifact, sorcery, instant if you play return, creature, planes walker, and that's if you're losing horribly, which if you've cast all those things you are not
It'd probably be an 10 drop. Artifact creature sorcery. Still meh. Rather pay {Kozilek the old one}

not tron.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Kaylesh on June 20, 2016, 04:55:21 PM
And we've got a legendary Werewolf!

3RG, 4/4. ETB or transform give target +4/+4.
Transforms into 6/6, when transforms you may fight non-werewolf.
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/744984664117485568
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 20, 2016, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: mickeven on June 20, 2016, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: Taysby on June 20, 2016, 11:26:46 AM
Emrakul confirmed for sure. He's in the lore that came out today
the card has been spoiled too

http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/emrakulthepromisedend.html

1. The control is on cast. Which is fantastic if you're not playing reanimator.
2. Probably paying around 10 mama which is decent.
3. The protection is solid.

That's it. Lacklustre IMO.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rasser on June 20, 2016, 07:15:07 PM
Coax from the Blind Eternities
2U
Sorcery
You may choose an Eldrazi card you own from outside the game or in exile, reveal that card, and put it into your hand.


A little something for {U} Tron maybe
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Themugz on June 20, 2016, 08:04:59 PM
Quote from: Rasser on June 20, 2016, 07:15:07 PM
Coax from the Blind Eternities
2U
Sorcery
You may choose an Eldrazi card you own from outside the game or in exile, reveal that card, and put it into your hand.


A little something for {U} Tron maybe

Omg that's so legit
Tutor your win cons depending the deck your opponent is playing
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on June 20, 2016, 09:05:35 PM
Quote from: Themugz on June 20, 2016, 08:04:59 PM
Quote from: Rasser on June 20, 2016, 07:15:07 PM
Coax from the Blind Eternities
2U
Sorcery
You may choose an Eldrazi card you own from outside the game or in exile, reveal that card, and put it into your hand.


A little something for {U} Tron maybe

Omg that's so legit
Tutor your win cons depending the deck your opponent is playing
Could it potentially let you run 8 of any eldrazi? Say, 4 {Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger} in the game and 4 out of it?
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on June 20, 2016, 09:10:35 PM
Also a little bit of flavor with the new werewolf dude  {Ulrich's Kindred}.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on June 20, 2016, 09:19:45 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on June 20, 2016, 09:05:35 PM
Quote from: Themugz on June 20, 2016, 08:04:59 PM
Quote from: Rasser on June 20, 2016, 07:15:07 PM
Coax from the Blind Eternities
2U
Sorcery
You may choose an Eldrazi card you own from outside the game or in exile, reveal that card, and put it into your hand.


A little something for {U} Tron maybe

Omg that's so legit
Tutor your win cons depending the deck your opponent is playing
Could it potentially let you run 8 of any eldrazi? Say, 4 {Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger} in the game and 4 out of it?

For competitive play, 'outside the game' means your sideboard, so you can still only have 4 copies between your main deck and sideboard.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on June 20, 2016, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on June 20, 2016, 09:19:45 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on June 20, 2016, 09:05:35 PM
Quote from: Themugz on June 20, 2016, 08:04:59 PM
Quote from: Rasser on June 20, 2016, 07:15:07 PM
Coax from the Blind Eternities
2U
Sorcery
You may choose an Eldrazi card you own from outside the game or in exile, reveal that card, and put it into your hand.


A little something for {U} Tron maybe

Omg that's so legit
Tutor your win cons depending the deck your opponent is playing
Could it potentially let you run 8 of any eldrazi? Say, 4 {Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger} in the game and 4 out of it?

For competitive play, 'outside the game' means your sideboard, so you can still only have 4 copies between your main deck and sideboard.
Ok that makes much more sense. Otherwise you'd just have a pile of eldrazi cards for all the if situations.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Prplprince on June 20, 2016, 11:32:23 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on June 20, 2016, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on June 20, 2016, 09:19:45 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on June 20, 2016, 09:05:35 PM
Quote from: Themugz on June 20, 2016, 08:04:59 PM
Quote from: Rasser on June 20, 2016, 07:15:07 PM
Coax from the Blind Eternities
2U
Sorcery
You may choose an Eldrazi card you own from outside the game or in exile, reveal that card, and put it into your hand.


A little something for {U} Tron maybe

Omg that's so legit
Tutor your win cons depending the deck your opponent is playing
Could it potentially let you run 8 of any eldrazi? Say, 4 {Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger} in the game and 4 out of it?

For competitive play, 'outside the game' means your sideboard, so you can still only have 4 copies between your main deck and sideboard.
Ok that makes much more sense. Otherwise you'd just have a pile of eldrazi cards for all the if situations.

At most you could have "7" of one card. You can have 3 main board and the 4 tutors
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: blackychan1 on June 21, 2016, 12:53:27 AM
Emrakul, the Promised End.     13
Legendary Creature - Eldrazi
Emrakul,the Promised End costs 1 less to cast for each card type among cards in your graveyard.

When you cast Emrakul, you gain control of target opponent during that player's next turn. After that turn, that player takes an extra turn.

Flying, trample, protection from instants.
An enigma as vexing as life itself.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 21, 2016, 08:57:27 AM
Quote from: blackychan1 on June 21, 2016, 12:53:27 AM
Emrakul, the Promised End.     13
Legendary Creature - Eldrazi
Emrakul,the Promised End costs 1 less to cast for each card type among cards in your graveyard.

When you cast Emrakul, you gain control of target opponent during that player's next turn. After that turn, that player takes an extra turn.

Flying, trample, protection from instants.
An enigma as vexing as life itself.


Enough with emrakul.   It's been posted like 4 times now.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: griffin131 on June 21, 2016, 09:31:02 AM
Quote from: Taysby on June 20, 2016, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: mickeven on June 20, 2016, 01:47:39 PM
13/13 flying trample protection from Path, mindslaver for 7 or 8 mana
Lol what deck are you playing? ;). Tron at its absolute best would be casting for 8, IF they're already losing. Artifact, sorcery, instant if you play return, creature, planes walker, and that's if you're losing horribly, which if you've cast all those things you are not
It'd probably be an 10 drop. Artifact creature sorcery. Still meh. Rather pay {Kozilek the old one}
You don't play all is dust? That's 2 more off the cost (Tribal, Sorc)

It might not be great for R/G tron, but it's still a good card. Mindslaver is a strong card and stapling it to a 13/13 flying trample pro-most removal doesn't make it worse.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 21, 2016, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 08, 2016, 05:19:26 PM
Lets get that Legendary Werewolf MaRo owes us...
Well we got what looks like the human side spoiled. I also found a site claiming to be showing the back, looks like when he flips to werewolf he just gets to fight a non-werewolf. How boring.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: ELLERfeller on June 21, 2016, 11:38:58 AM
Quote from: redwolv on June 21, 2016, 11:21:25 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 08, 2016, 05:19:26 PM
Lets get that Legendary Werewolf MaRo owes us...
Well we got what looks like the human side spoiled. I also found a site claiming to be showing the back, looks like when he flips to werewolf he just gets to fight a non-werewolf. How boring.
It's very underwhelming
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 21, 2016, 02:47:45 PM
 New Lilliana is coming out called Lilliana the last hope. Looks like Lilliana of the veil isn't getting reprinted.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 21, 2016, 03:09:35 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 21, 2016, 03:05:50 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 21, 2016, 02:47:45 PM
New Lilliana is coming out called Lilliana the last hope. Looks like Lilliana of the veil isn't getting reprinted.

Source?
Mtglion did a video. Apparently they poster names listed the planeswalker names when you changed the language to Portuguese. It was also a thread on MTGsalvation.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 21, 2016, 03:10:59 PM
https://youtu.be/F0LBmzkvHg8
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 21, 2016, 04:33:30 PM
In magic origins we had what WotC called the 5 core walkers. Jace, Gideon, Nissa, Chandra, and Lilliana. In bfz block we saw the first four, form the gatewatch and defeat the first two eldrazi Titans. We know from the recent story jace has returned to zendikar to call on the gatewatch, to fight Emmy.
Will we now see the 5th walker join the gatewatch? I think so, IF her title of the above leak is correct. She will probably be a fundamental price to taking Emmy out.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 21, 2016, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: redwolv on June 21, 2016, 04:33:30 PM
In magic origins we had what WotC called the 5 core walkers. Jace, Gideon, Nissa, Chandra, and Lilliana. In bfz block we saw the first four, form the gatewatch and defeat the first two eldrazi Titans. We know from the recent story jace has returned to zendikar to call on the gatewatch, to fight Emmy.
Will we now see the 5th walker join the gatewatch? I think so, IF her title of the above leak is correct. She will probably be a fundamental price to taking Emmy out.

Have you watched the trailer?   It shows her send a ton of zombies at Emmy.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Kaylesh on June 21, 2016, 05:48:10 PM
In the trailer you also see the GW fall, and Lilli says something like: Let me handle this..
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 21, 2016, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 21, 2016, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: redwolv on June 21, 2016, 04:33:30 PM
In magic origins we had what WotC called the 5 core walkers. Jace, Gideon, Nissa, Chandra, and Lilliana. In bfz block we saw the first four, form the gatewatch and defeat the first two eldrazi Titans. We know from the recent story jace has returned to zendikar to call on the gatewatch, to fight Emmy.
Will we now see the 5th walker join the gatewatch? I think so, IF her title of the above leak is correct. She will probably be a fundamental price to taking Emmy out.

Have you watched the trailer?   It shows her send a ton of zombies at Emmy.
No I have not...
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 21, 2016, 09:13:32 PM
Quote from: redwolv on June 21, 2016, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 21, 2016, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: redwolv on June 21, 2016, 04:33:30 PM
In magic origins we had what WotC called the 5 core walkers. Jace, Gideon, Nissa, Chandra, and Lilliana. In bfz block we saw the first four, form the gatewatch and defeat the first two eldrazi Titans. We know from the recent story jace has returned to zendikar to call on the gatewatch, to fight Emmy.
Will we now see the 5th walker join the gatewatch? I think so, IF her title of the above leak is correct. She will probably be a fundamental price to taking Emmy out.

Have you watched the trailer?   It shows her send a ton of zombies at Emmy.
No I have not...

https://youtu.be/7TN0b8ik0B8
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 21, 2016, 10:04:05 PM
Thanks for the video.

Anywho on a side note. You think it might be possible one of the gatewatch walkers might go crazy? cause it seems Jace has a hard enough time just shielding himself from the madness.

Also what happened to sigarda? I remember reading something during Soi that she got attacked by the other angels but I don't remember how it ended.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 22, 2016, 08:32:43 AM
Not for sure with sigarda.   But Bruno and gisela are "absorbed"


http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/speculation/715940-gisela-bruna-hybrid
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 22, 2016, 10:04:25 AM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 22, 2016, 08:32:43 AM
Not for sure with sigarda.   But Bruno and gisela are "absorbed"


http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/speculation/715940-gisela-bruna-hybrid
That's what brought up my question. I could not remember if she got taken out in SOI. Or if she is still around in EM. Cause if she was around should she not have been corrupted too?
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: ELLERfeller on June 22, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
Double sided eldrazi with no flip mechanic printed on it...
Edit: I realize now what was spoiled WAS the flipped side but I still like it!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on June 22, 2016, 10:26:18 AM
Quote from: ELLERfeller on June 22, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
Double sided eldrazi with no flip mechanic printed on it...
Edit: I realize now what was spoiled WAS the flipped side but I still like it!
Towndrazi?
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: ELLERfeller on June 22, 2016, 10:57:59 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 22, 2016, 10:26:18 AM
Quote from: ELLERfeller on June 22, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
Double sided eldrazi with no flip mechanic printed on it...
Edit: I realize now what was spoiled WAS the flipped side but I still like it!
Towndrazi?
Yep! I wonder if it'll be a land on the other side
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 22, 2016, 11:01:38 AM
Quote from: ELLERfeller on June 22, 2016, 10:57:59 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on June 22, 2016, 10:26:18 AM
Quote from: ELLERfeller on June 22, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
Double sided eldrazi with no flip mechanic printed on it...
Edit: I realize now what was spoiled WAS the flipped side but I still like it!
Towndrazi?
Yep! I wonder if it'll be a land on the other side
That would be my guess. It really will come down to how it flips, cause the flipped side seems pretty potent.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: ELLERfeller on June 22, 2016, 11:02:23 AM
I'm sure it'll be some form of delirium
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 22, 2016, 11:57:06 AM
Hanweir, the withering township
Legendary creature- eldrazi ooze
Trample haste
Whenever township attacks, put 2  3/2 colorless eldrazi horror creature tokens onto the battlefield tapped and attacking.
7/4



That is the flipped side.

Id like to point out.    Eldrazi HORRORS
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 22, 2016, 12:19:38 PM
maybe a red wall (lol wall) or creature with defender that when you cast an eldrazi spell it transforms?
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Johng4490 on June 22, 2016, 04:50:03 PM
I'm really thinking we'll see the creatures of Innistrad twisted. (Hoping?) so my optimistic idea is that side A is an ooze, then Emmy takes effect.. Eldrazi ooze.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 22, 2016, 04:54:46 PM
Ooo now I want to see a werewolf eldrazi. Or a weredrazi creature
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rass on June 22, 2016, 05:16:28 PM
Reprint  {Crucible of Worlds} and add some phytexian.

😜😜😜😜😜
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Prplprince on June 22, 2016, 07:46:31 PM
Quote from: Rass on June 22, 2016, 05:16:28 PM
Reprint  {Crucible of Worlds} and add some phytexian.

😜😜😜😜😜

A crucible reprint wouldn't be something to shake a stick at. There are the colorless effect lands like  {Blighted Fen} that could be something. Also extreme fringe thought {The Gitrog Monster} would be very playable lol
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rass on June 22, 2016, 08:45:35 PM
I would love to see a reprint of it. I think it could actually fit this expansion but I no way see them reprinting it this set.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 22, 2016, 10:40:30 PM
Did you guys see the Lili spoil that no one knows if its true? The ult is "-8: exile all graves and put 50 2/2 zombie tokens onto battlefield" lol
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 22, 2016, 10:47:27 PM
Quote from: mickeven on June 22, 2016, 10:40:30 PM
Did you guys see the Lili spoil that no one knows if its true? The ult is "-8: exile all graves and put 50 2/2 zombie tokens onto battlefield" lol

Starting loyalty? Build up? Doubt it's real.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Prplprince on June 22, 2016, 10:51:05 PM
Quote from: mickeven on June 22, 2016, 10:40:30 PM
Did you guys see the Lili spoil that no one knows if its true? The ult is "-8: exile all graves and put 50 2/2 zombie tokens onto battlefield" lol

50 2/2s is like -20 worth lol. Not happening
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 23, 2016, 12:14:14 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ee6f6jde8ufgwk/Photo%20Jun%2022%2C%2010%2028%2019%20PM.jpg?dl=0

its probably like when they leaked that fale Ugin but its still work a look. its pretty funny. I believe the art and name are correct tho
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 23, 2016, 01:06:26 AM
Quote from: mickeven on June 23, 2016, 12:14:14 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ee6f6jde8ufgwk/Photo%20Jun%2022%2C%2010%2028%2019%20PM.jpg?dl=0

its probably like when they leaked that fale Ugin but its still work a look. its pretty funny. I believe the art and name are correct tho

So slightly different {Liliana of the Veil}? I woulda said that's fake in a heartbeat, especially due to the wording.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 23, 2016, 01:25:49 AM
No way is that real. A -3 that basically reads "exile target creature" and that ulti is way to over powered.

Compare it to {ajani, caller of the pride}'s ulti. Same starting loyalty, same cost of -8. And with him you would have to get to 50 life to have the same effect.

Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 23, 2016, 03:52:55 AM
Quote from: mickeven on June 23, 2016, 12:14:14 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ee6f6jde8ufgwk/Photo%20Jun%2022%2C%2010%2028%2019%20PM.jpg?dl=0

its probably like when they leaked that fale Ugin but its still work a look. its pretty funny. I believe the art and name are correct tho

No way the art is right.  The art for a planeswalker usually focuses on the pw more. And the art extends into text box lightly.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 23, 2016, 06:45:48 AM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 22, 2016, 11:57:06 AM
Hanweir, the withering township
Legendary creature- eldrazi ooze
Trample haste
Whenever township attacks, put 2  3/2 colorless eldrazi horror creature tokens onto the battlefield tapped and attacking.
7/4



That is the flipped side.

Id like to point out.    Eldrazi HORRORS

It's either red or green.  205 cards in set and its 130.  130 in gatewatch out of 185 was green. 
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 23, 2016, 09:38:09 AM
Thalia up
Creatures and nonbadics your opponent controls come in tapped
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: griffin131 on June 23, 2016, 11:09:23 AM
I love this Thalia.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: General kiwi on June 23, 2016, 11:34:35 AM
Thalia will be expensive
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 23, 2016, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: General kiwi on June 23, 2016, 11:34:35 AM
Thalia will be expensive

No she won't.   She's the buy-a-box promo
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Prplprince on June 23, 2016, 12:19:05 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 23, 2016, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: General kiwi on June 23, 2016, 11:34:35 AM
Thalia will be expensive

No she won't.   She's the buy-a-box promo

{Goblin Rabblemaster} was as well and he went pretty high
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: General kiwi on June 23, 2016, 01:32:33 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 23, 2016, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: General kiwi on June 23, 2016, 11:34:35 AM
Thalia will be expensive

No she won't.   She's the buy-a-box promo
I didn't realize that!! Yay
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 23, 2016, 01:46:06 PM
True... It did hit $20 during khans
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Codester1991 on June 23, 2016, 05:35:44 PM
Liliana the last hope 2BB
+1 each player discards a card. If you discarded a swamp this way put a 2/2 zombie token onto the battlefield.
-3 target creature's controller sacrifices it.
-8 exile all graveyards. Then put 50 2/2 zombie tokens onto the battlefield.


Saw it on MTG Salvation. Could be a fake.

Nvm, confirmed fake.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rothsteine on June 23, 2016, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: Codester1991 on June 23, 2016, 05:35:44 PM
Liliana the last hope 2BB
+1 each player discards a card. If you discarded a swamp this way put a 2/2 zombie token onto the battlefield.
-3 target creature's controller sacrifices it.
-8 exile all graveyards. Then put 50 2/2 zombie tokens onto the battlefield.


Saw it on MTG Salvation. Could be a fake.

Nvm, confirmed fake.
With a -8 like that, it has to be fake lol.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 23, 2016, 07:17:58 PM
Quote from: Rothsteine on June 23, 2016, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: Codester1991 on June 23, 2016, 05:35:44 PM
Liliana the last hope 2BB
+1 each player discards a card. If you discarded a swamp this way put a 2/2 zombie token onto the battlefield.
-3 target creature's controller sacrifices it.
-8 exile all graveyards. Then put 50 2/2 zombie tokens onto the battlefield.


Saw it on MTG Salvation. Could be a fake.

Nvm, confirmed fake.
With a -8 like that, it has to be fake lol.


Art doesn't seem right either
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Mattao19 on June 23, 2016, 07:29:39 PM
Lol her plus was cool. Her minus was good but I doubt they'd word it like that. Her ult is never gunna be a thing
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rass on June 23, 2016, 08:18:09 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 23, 2016, 07:29:39 PM
Her ult is never gunna be a thing

Isn't that what they said about  {Ajani, Mentor of Heroes} and his plus 100 life
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Prplprince on June 23, 2016, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: Rass on June 23, 2016, 08:18:09 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 23, 2016, 07:29:39 PM
Her ult is never gunna be a thing

Isn't that what they said about  {Ajani, Mentor of Heroes} and his plus 100 life
100 life vs 50 2/2s is a massive difference. 100 life is nothing compared to that kind of power
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 23, 2016, 10:59:21 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on June 23, 2016, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: Rass on June 23, 2016, 08:18:09 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 23, 2016, 07:29:39 PM
Her ult is never gunna be a thing

Isn't that what they said about  {Ajani, Mentor of Heroes} and his plus 100 life
100 life vs 50 2/2s is a massive difference. 100 life is nothing compared to that kind of power
thats pretty amazing but theres a lot of things in standard that could easily deal with it
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rass on June 23, 2016, 11:06:20 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on June 23, 2016, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: Rass on June 23, 2016, 08:18:09 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 23, 2016, 07:29:39 PM
Her ult is never gunna be a thing

Isn't that what they said about  {Ajani, Mentor of Heroes} and his plus 100 life
100 life vs 50 2/2s is a massive difference. 100 life is nothing compared to that kind of power

All depends on what kind of deck your playing and what you have in hand.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 23, 2016, 11:46:33 PM
Quote from: Rass on June 23, 2016, 11:06:20 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on June 23, 2016, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: Rass on June 23, 2016, 08:18:09 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 23, 2016, 07:29:39 PM
Her ult is never gunna be a thing

Isn't that what they said about  {Ajani, Mentor of Heroes} and his plus 100 life
100 life vs 50 2/2s is a massive difference. 100 life is nothing compared to that kind of power

All depends on what kind of deck your playing and what you have in hand.
I would much rather have my opponent gain 100life over 50 2/2s. 100 life does not spell game over. But 50 2/2s is game over unless you have a board wipe, or can win on your next turn.

That said it was already posted that it has been declared a fake.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Themugz on June 24, 2016, 02:32:37 AM
Unless we get a massive amount of board wipes in a set; it seems very unlikely
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 24, 2016, 08:28:03 AM
These are all in standard that would be able to deal with that. Still its confirmed fake.

{Radiant Flames}
{Seismic Rupture}
{Biting Rain}
{Flaying Tendrils}
  {Rising Miasma}
{Planar Outburst}
{Descend upon the Sinful}
{Engulf the Shore}
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: griffin131 on June 24, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
Forgot {Declaration in Stone}
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 24, 2016, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on June 24, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
Forgot {Declaration in Stone}
i purposely forgot that one because of the 50 clue tokens you youd be giving up
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: ELLERfeller on June 24, 2016, 01:47:45 PM
Quote from: mickeven on June 24, 2016, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on June 24, 2016, 12:17:36 PM
Forgot {Declaration in Stone}
i purposely forgot that one because of the 50 clue tokens you youd be giving up
Yeah since they are tokens no clues would be produced.... That's so nasty!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: griffin131 on June 24, 2016, 02:00:06 PM
Quote from: mickeven on June 24, 2016, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on June 24, 2016, 12:17:36 PMForgot {Declaration in Stone}
i purposely forgot that one because of the 50 clue tokens you youd be giving up
Except tokens don't generate clues so...
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 24, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on June 24, 2016, 02:00:06 PM
Quote from: mickeven on June 24, 2016, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on June 24, 2016, 12:17:36 PMForgot {Declaration in Stone}
i purposely forgot that one because of the 50 clue tokens you youd be giving up
Except tokens don't generate clues so...
so add that to the list? idk what you want to do lol
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Themugz on June 24, 2016, 05:09:36 PM
Better just be done with the list all together

Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: ELLERfeller on June 24, 2016, 05:19:10 PM
I'm now doubly curious about the new Liliana!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 26, 2016, 08:54:04 PM
Looks like BFM is now in black border with new mechanic MELD


https://i.imgsafe.org/079b0da7f0.png
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rasser on June 26, 2016, 09:08:26 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 26, 2016, 08:54:04 PM
Looks like BFM is now in black border with new mechanic MELD


https://i.imgsafe.org/079b0da7f0.png

New "Banding" lol
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Themugz on June 26, 2016, 09:10:23 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 26, 2016, 08:54:04 PM
Looks like BFM is now in black border with new mechanic MELD


https://i.imgsafe.org/079b0da7f0.png
Janky drafting supreme set

I really dislike introducing new mechanics in this 2 set system per block; let us play with the large range of mechanics for a set for a whole block rather than limit it and and the potential number of cards that can utilize the mechanic
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 26, 2016, 10:21:46 PM
Another problem with 2 block system is we are going to travel to lots of planes faster.   
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Oldschoolmtgnoob on June 27, 2016, 08:53:37 AM
What does that mean, "'if you both' own and control". Both who? You and a teammate? You and opponent? Could that be fake? I feel like that's fake
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 27, 2016, 09:10:56 AM
both is referring to "owning and controlling". you cant gain control of your opponents creature with meld and use it
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: ELLERfeller on June 27, 2016, 11:46:23 AM
I really really dislike this mechanic.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 27, 2016, 11:58:55 AM
I think I'm going to hate this set..
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: imFourth of Phils on June 27, 2016, 12:11:07 PM
i don't get the emerge mechanic :(
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 27, 2016, 12:18:24 PM
The back of the meld cards each have half the back image on it sideways. It will look like oversized cards when melded.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 27, 2016, 12:19:07 PM
Yeah...  I only draft.  This sets going to be a PITA
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 27, 2016, 12:30:58 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 27, 2016, 12:22:24 PM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on June 27, 2016, 12:11:07 PM
i don't get the emerge mechanic :(

Save your "progress" in a creature

Creature with emerge costs {5}{U}
Sacrifice a creature that costs {3}{U}
Pay the difference of {2}

does it include the color like convoke or just the cmc colorless like delve?
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rasser on June 27, 2016, 12:39:47 PM
{Cryptolyth Fragment}
(http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/cryptolithfragment.jpg)
           +
{Freed from the Real}
{Kiora's Follower}

Win con
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Codester1991 on June 27, 2016, 12:58:58 PM
Quote from: Rasser on June 27, 2016, 12:39:47 PM
{Cryptolyth Fragment}
(http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/cryptolithfragment.jpg)
           +
{Freed from the Real}
{Kiora's Follower}

Win con

{Oath of nissa} and {ancient stirrings} to help dig it out of the deck 👍🏿
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Nephalia on June 27, 2016, 01:07:53 PM
Well I'm not to into the new fusion mechanic. I get it flavor wise, but this isn't yugioh. I hope the art can sell me on the set. I love innistrad wotc, pleased not ruin this visit!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on June 27, 2016, 02:06:10 PM
See I kind of like the merge mechanic. If you look at it, a majority of the merge cards, specifically Gisela and Bruna, are playable without focusing on merge portion. Sure merge does make them way stronger together but they still are pretty strong by themselves.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 27, 2016, 02:10:07 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 27, 2016, 12:22:46 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 27, 2016, 12:18:24 PM
The back of the meld cards each have half the back image on it sideways. It will look like oversized cards when melded.

Where you hear that?

Never mind, I believe you, on closer inspection each art of the back side of melded cards has a horizontal line across the middle indicating a split

Good eye bud!

https://i.imgsafe.org/16be29cf87.png


Let our powers combine!   Go.....
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Themugz on June 27, 2016, 02:17:11 PM
Limited players will enjoy this set

As a constructed player: this set looks lame as F
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 27, 2016, 02:23:39 PM
I am not a fan of the meld idea. But what pushes it into, the this is stupid range is for the two angels, one is rare, and the other mythic. Thats stupid as .poo..
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 27, 2016, 02:27:03 PM
Quote from: Themugz on June 27, 2016, 02:17:11 PM
Limited players will enjoy this set

As a constructed player: this set looks lame as F

Your not a limited payer.   This is going to suck for limited.  You have be able to draft both halfs to meld!!

Won't be much melding in limited


Also rumor has it only 3 meld cards in set
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on June 27, 2016, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 27, 2016, 02:27:03 PM
Quote from: Themugz on June 27, 2016, 02:17:11 PM
Limited players will enjoy this set

As a constructed player: this set looks lame as F

Your not a limited payer.   This is going to suck for limited.  You have be able to draft both halfs to meld!!

Won't be much melding in limited


Also rumor has it only 3 meld cards in set
I doubt they would limit it to only the three they have announced. If anything they would probably do one for each color. The interesting thing is that the number on the card they flip and meld into is the number of the creature that says (melds with ___) not the creature with the actual effect that causes the meld.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 27, 2016, 03:21:32 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on June 27, 2016, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 27, 2016, 02:27:03 PM
Quote from: Themugz on June 27, 2016, 02:17:11 PM
Limited players will enjoy this set

As a constructed player: this set looks lame as F

Your not a limited payer.   This is going to suck for limited.  You have be able to draft both halfs to meld!!

Won't be much melding in limited


Also rumor has it only 3 meld cards in set
I doubt they would limit it to only the three they have announced. If anything they would probably do one for each color. The interesting thing is that the number on the card they flip and meld into is the number of the creature that says (melds with ___) not the creature with the actual effect that causes the meld.

Article on mothership says only 3 in set
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 27, 2016, 03:34:20 PM
Maybe is like a test run. See how people like the idea.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rass on June 27, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
Kinda silly if you have to sleeve.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 27, 2016, 07:09:10 PM
It seems like a "win more" strategy. It's making two cards into one strictly better card that can easily be 2 for 1 by a kill spell. Doesn't seem remotely worth a slot in this set. It's a gimmick, and a bad one at that.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Prplprince on June 27, 2016, 08:38:09 PM
Meld = yugioh fusion mechanic......

Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Avnger345 on June 27, 2016, 08:41:18 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 27, 2016, 03:21:32 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on June 27, 2016, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on June 27, 2016, 02:27:03 PM
Quote from: Themugz on June 27, 2016, 02:17:11 PM
Limited players will enjoy this set

As a constructed player: this set looks lame as F

Your not a limited payer.   This is going to suck for limited.  You have be able to draft both halfs to meld!!

Won't be much melding in limited


Also rumor has it only 3 meld cards in set
I doubt they would limit it to only the three they have announced. If anything they would probably do one for each color. The interesting thing is that the number on the card they flip and meld into is the number of the creature that says (melds with ___) not the creature with the actual effect that causes the meld.

Article on mothership says only 3 in set


"There are three pairs of meld cards: Hanweir Battlements and Hanweir Garrison, plus two more you can read about in other articles on DailyMTG today."


Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Themugz on June 27, 2016, 08:47:02 PM
Well remand for standard is sorta of cool
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Rass on June 27, 2016, 09:50:34 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on June 27, 2016, 08:25:21 PM
After creating meld, I think it is safe to say that magic has "Jumped the Shark."  I had been looking for the proper phrase to describe the slow decline in magic with these spoilers and mechanics and ridiculous power creep... and I had just learned this phrase and I hope you all get familiar with it. {https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_the_shark}

What? You never watched happy days?  I mean who can pull off a leather coat while on skis in water being pulled by a boat.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: MarduArrow on June 28, 2016, 01:16:42 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 27, 2016, 07:22:22 PM
I don't like the idea of taking 2 creatures and smushing them into one and invite the doomblade...





(http://i.imgur.com/dayuKGn.jpg)

Brisela doesn't die to doomblade
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 28, 2016, 08:56:51 AM
Delvers final version is pretty cool

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n8devs8s9n1k7uj/Photo%20Jun%2028%2C%208%2031%2019%20AM.jpg?dl=0
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 28, 2016, 12:42:10 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 28, 2016, 10:58:20 AM
Not doomblade since it isn't standard but any kill spell moving at sorcery speed...
that costs 4 or more. i think thats what he means
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: MarduArrow on June 28, 2016, 01:54:04 PM
Quote from: mickeven on June 28, 2016, 12:42:10 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 28, 2016, 10:58:20 AM
Not doomblade since it isn't standard but any kill spell moving at sorcery speed...
that costs 4 or more. i think thats what he means

☝🏻️
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Mattao19 on June 28, 2016, 04:08:15 PM
{Silence the believers} is likely your best bet. That or a walker like Ob Nix
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Mattao19 on June 28, 2016, 09:00:50 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 28, 2016, 04:56:34 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 28, 2016, 04:08:15 PM
{Silence the believers} is likely your best bet. That or a walker like Ob Nix

Walkers are non creature spells so he would be out to, and who uses silence the believers?

This would be messed up



What are we talking about lol Ob can kill Brisela
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Kaylesh on June 29, 2016, 05:18:20 AM
 {Triskaidekaphobia} got some nice fuel with {tree of perdition}. A 0/13 defender that taps to switch its toughness with life total of target opponent.

It is also quite a tool in Commander. Got this 0/40 wall, come at me.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on June 29, 2016, 09:45:15 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 29, 2016, 05:18:20 AM
{Triskaidekaphobia} got some nice fuel with {tree of perdition}. A 0/13 defender that taps to switch its toughness with life total of target opponent.

It is also quite a tool in Commander. Got this 0/40 wall, come at me.
It's your life total, not your opponent's (which sucks)
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on June 29, 2016, 09:51:10 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on June 29, 2016, 09:45:15 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 29, 2016, 05:18:20 AM
{Triskaidekaphobia} got some nice fuel with {tree of perdition}. A 0/13 defender that taps to switch its toughness with life total of target opponent.

It is also quite a tool in Commander. Got this 0/40 wall, come at me.
It's your life total, not your opponent's (which sucks)

you're barking up the wrong tree dude
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 29, 2016, 10:01:57 AM
Quote from: mickeven on June 29, 2016, 09:51:10 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on June 29, 2016, 09:45:15 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 29, 2016, 05:18:20 AM
{Triskaidekaphobia} got some nice fuel with {tree of perdition}. A 0/13 defender that taps to switch its toughness with life total of target opponent.

It is also quite a tool in Commander. Got this 0/40 wall, come at me.
It's your life total, not your opponent's (which sucks)

you're barking up the wrong tree dude

Oh god your terrible
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 29, 2016, 11:16:56 AM
Gissa and Geralf looks really good.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on June 29, 2016, 12:06:45 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 29, 2016, 11:16:56 AM
Gissa and Geralf looks really good.
It has potential. But I have not seen much in the way of good zombies, for standard. And cards like that are only as good as the cards they  Synergize with.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Oldschoolmtgnoob on June 29, 2016, 12:19:05 PM
Quote from: redwolv on June 29, 2016, 12:06:45 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 29, 2016, 11:16:56 AM
Gissa and Geralf looks really good.
It has potential. But I have not seen much in the way of good zombies, for standard. And cards like that are only as good as the cards they  Synergize with.

{diregraf colossus} is pretty fun
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 29, 2016, 12:33:45 PM
Quote from: redwolv on June 29, 2016, 12:06:45 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 29, 2016, 11:16:56 AM
Gissa and Geralf looks really good.
It has potential. But I have not seen much in the way of good zombies, for standard. And cards like that are only as good as the cards they  Synergize with.
I was thinking more for commander. Pretty much only interested in the legendary creatures in this set.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Kaylesh on June 29, 2016, 01:06:21 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on June 29, 2016, 09:45:15 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 29, 2016, 05:18:20 AM
{Triskaidekaphobia} got some nice fuel with {tree of perdition}. A 0/13 defender that taps to switch its toughness with life total of target opponent.

It is also quite a tool in Commander. Got this 0/40 wall, come at me.
It's your life total, not your opponent's (which sucks)
Perdition is the new one, which does swap with your opponent's total.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on June 29, 2016, 01:55:59 PM
{Gnarlwood Dryad} looks pretty sweet!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Nephalia on June 29, 2016, 01:58:50 PM
Aww yeah, lilis going to mess some .poo. up. New ur story was good. Can't wait to see her card spoiled Monday(hopefully). New geralf and gilsa are certainly being made into a themed commander deck when I get one lol. I may actually be excited now.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: imFourth of Phils on June 30, 2016, 07:27:04 AM
{Harmless Offering}
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Prplprince on June 30, 2016, 09:14:41 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on June 30, 2016, 07:27:04 AM
{Harmless Offering}

I need foil copies.... All of them.... Every printed one
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 30, 2016, 11:48:04 AM
Wharf infiltrator looks so good. Totally going in my Edric edh.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Prplprince on June 30, 2016, 12:29:48 PM
{Eldritch Evolution} has real potential. Sac a 3 cmc like {Kitchen Finks} get a  {Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker}. Sac a 2 cmc like  {Tarmogoyf} get  {Siege Rhino}. They took my pod... Let me dream
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Themugz on June 30, 2016, 04:05:06 PM
Murder uncommon 😂😂😂

Standard is evolving to 💩 Unless you run white
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 30, 2016, 04:50:54 PM
You can turn 5 eldritch Evo ulamog

1. Forest / traverse (get mountain)
2. Mountain / Vessel of (red one)
3. Yavimaya coast/ pop vessel for 4 red plus one remaining play reality smasher
4. Yavimaya coast/ either in response to spell or at their eot sunmon elder deep-fiend by sacing reality smash.
5. Use eldritch evo sac fiend for ula
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on June 30, 2016, 06:45:49 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 30, 2016, 06:39:08 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on June 30, 2016, 04:50:54 PM
You can turn 5 eldritch Evo ulamog

1. Forest / traverse (get mountain)
2. Mountain / Vessel of (red one)
3. Yavimaya coast/ pop vessel for 4 red plus one remaining play reality smasher
4. Yavimaya coast/ either in response to spell or at their eot sunmon elder deep-fiend by sacing reality smash.
5. Use eldritch evo sac fiend for ula

Pray for counterspell...
Three negates in hand may thwart their Ulamog plans.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: DirtyMustachio on June 30, 2016, 07:52:09 PM
The fact you can
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Prplprince on July 01, 2016, 09:06:40 AM
Quote from: Taysby on July 01, 2016, 02:58:47 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on June 30, 2016, 07:27:04 AM
{Harmless Offering}
{demonic pact} is now playable. Makes me want to get into standard to do janky .poo.. XD

Wow that is stupid....... I'm going to do it
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Mabb78 on July 01, 2016, 09:33:03 AM
Quote from: Prplprince on July 01, 2016, 09:06:40 AM
Quote from: Taysby on July 01, 2016, 02:58:47 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on June 30, 2016, 07:27:04 AM
{Harmless Offering}
{demonic pact} is now playable. Makes me want to get into standard to do janky .poo.. XD

Wow that is stupid....... I'm going to do it
😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on July 01, 2016, 11:20:44 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on July 01, 2016, 10:48:16 AM
Donate a pacified {Goldnight Castigator}
Burn their face off
Definitely janky but potentially viable. I like it. You could also be mean and run it for the giggles in a  {Triskaidekaphobia} list. Tree of perdition them to thirteen then donate them the triskaidekaphobia. That way they lose to their own trisk on their upkeep.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: General kiwi on July 01, 2016, 11:21:13 AM
Tamiyo field researcher is sweet! Also love the fact she is bant for edh
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: ELLERfeller on July 01, 2016, 12:08:12 PM
And her +1 can apply to opponents creatures as well!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Kaylesh on July 01, 2016, 01:46:46 PM
{peace of mind} & {prey upon} reprints.

PoM enters Modern now, but that art on Prey Upon! Two pictures tell the whole story of Inistrad. Awesome.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on July 01, 2016, 07:57:42 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 01, 2016, 07:48:29 PM
Liliana joins the gatewatch, confirmed too
Art

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5i793r97g8icz7s/Photo%20Jul%2001%2C%207%2054%2058%20PM.png?dl=0
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: imFourth of Phils on July 02, 2016, 12:09:48 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 01, 2016, 01:46:46 PM
{peace of mind} & {prey upon} reprints.

PoM enters Modern now, but that art on Prey Upon! Two pictures tell the whole story of Inistrad. Awesome.

{Prey Upon } for {Lupine Prototype} let it box with opponent creature
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Estel2931 on July 02, 2016, 11:28:28 PM
{Turn Aside} is back
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: mickeven on July 02, 2016, 11:42:14 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on July 02, 2016, 11:28:28 PM
{Turn Aside} is back
not a bad way to protect your Brisela
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on July 04, 2016, 10:53:10 AM
New Lilliana and green black legendary spider!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: General kiwi on July 04, 2016, 12:29:02 PM
The lili is stupid good
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Estel2931 on July 04, 2016, 01:14:54 PM
{Deploy the Gatewatch}

4WW
Sorcery
Look at the top seven cards of your library. Put up to two planeswalker cards from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
Gideon and Liliana may not have seen eye to eye, but that did not stop them from fighting side by side.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 04, 2016, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on July 04, 2016, 01:14:54 PM
{Deploy the Gatewatch}

4WW
Sorcery
Look at the top seven cards of your library. Put up to two planeswalker cards from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
Gideon and Liliana may not have seen eye to eye, but that did not stop them from fighting side by side.

This sounds so good. Like, so good. {Oath of Liliana} sounds really good too. And Liliana the Last Hope is bonkers!

Superfriends is getting some love, I'm so hype.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Thefluffymacheen on July 04, 2016, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 04, 2016, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on July 04, 2016, 01:14:54 PM
{Deploy the Gatewatch}

4WW
Sorcery
Look at the top seven cards of your library. Put up to two planeswalker cards from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
Gideon and Liliana may not have seen eye to eye, but that did not stop them from fighting side by side.

This sounds so good. Like, so good. {Oath of Liliana} sounds really good too. And Liliana the Last Hope is bonkers!

Superfriends is getting some love, I'm so hype.
Just imagine the new Liliana in a zombie deck for standard. Popping that ult and getting like 8 zombies a turn will be insane!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 04, 2016, 02:30:44 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on July 04, 2016, 02:29:38 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 04, 2016, 02:23:02 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on July 04, 2016, 01:14:54 PM
{Deploy the Gatewatch}

4WW
Sorcery
Look at the top seven cards of your library. Put up to two planeswalker cards from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
Gideon and Liliana may not have seen eye to eye, but that did not stop them from fighting side by side.

This sounds so good. Like, so good. {Oath of Liliana} sounds really good too. And Liliana the Last Hope is bonkers!

Superfriends is getting some love, I'm so hype.
Just imagine the new Liliana in a zombie deck for standard. Popping that ult and getting like 8 zombies a turn will be insane!

Even without more zombies, it's like {Kiora, the Crashing Wave}. You'll just win eventually. It's fantastic.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: DirtyMustachio on July 06, 2016, 10:29:27 AM
New devil horror
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Themugz on July 06, 2016, 03:12:30 PM
This set is just....wtf
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Estel2931 on July 06, 2016, 05:07:11 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on July 06, 2016, 03:58:30 PM
Quote from: Themugz on July 06, 2016, 03:12:30 PM
This set is just....wtf

And this set MaRo said he ranks among his top 10 best?

I know I wasn't hoping for more eldrazi coming into the set, but I'm not going to lie, I think this set is looking fairly decent. Story wise, it is kinda cheesy, but I'm anxious for this set to come out now that I've seen some spoilers.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 06, 2016, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on July 06, 2016, 05:07:11 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on July 06, 2016, 03:58:30 PM
Quote from: Themugz on July 06, 2016, 03:12:30 PM
This set is just....wtf

And this set MaRo said he ranks among his top 10 best?

I know I wasn't hoping for more eldrazi coming into the set, but I'm not going to lie, I think this set is looking fairly decent. Story wise, it is kinda cheesy, but I'm anxious for this set to come out now that I've seen some spoilers.

I'm liking the set. I didn't want it to be Emrakul after all this time, but it all makes sense. The disappointment isn't Emrakul, it's her card...but I think the story is awesome so far.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Codester1991 on July 06, 2016, 07:23:55 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 06, 2016, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on July 06, 2016, 05:07:11 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on July 06, 2016, 03:58:30 PM
Quote from: Themugz on July 06, 2016, 03:12:30 PM
This set is just....wtf

And this set MaRo said he ranks among his top 10 best?

I know I wasn't hoping for more eldrazi coming into the set, but I'm not going to lie, I think this set is looking fairly decent. Story wise, it is kinda cheesy, but I'm anxious for this set to come out now that I've seen some spoilers.

I'm liking the set. I didn't want it to be Emrakul after all this time, but it all makes sense. The disappointment isn't Emrakul, it's her card...but I think the story is awesome so far.

in all honesty us being disappointed in the new emrakul is us being spoiled. The new Emmy is a great card buuuut it's overshadowed by a predecessor that shouldn't have been printed because all in all it was just too powerful of a card. Had old Emmy not been printed and we just saw this 13/13 that can be cast for 8-10 easily with a mindslaver effect and instant protection we would've crapped ourselves, yet, we remember the extra turn Emmy pro spells that's a 15/15 and we say new Emmy isn't enough.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Estel2931 on July 07, 2016, 06:04:53 AM
Stunning Regrowth"
3G
Sorcery
Return all land cards from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: DirtyMustachio on July 07, 2016, 08:47:57 AM
Uhhh
Some new enchantment for one white

All aura and equip have flash

When you play an equip you may equip to a creature you control

This card seems nuts
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Mattao19 on July 07, 2016, 10:47:15 AM
My immediate thought was Jitte but is this card good enough for legacy?
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: DirtyMustachio on July 07, 2016, 11:44:23 AM
Can you say {BATTERSKULL}
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Estel2931 on July 07, 2016, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on July 07, 2016, 08:47:57 AM
Uhhh
Some new enchantment for one white

All aura and equip have flash

When you play an equip you may equip to a creature you control

This card seems nuts

Sigarda's Blessing
W
Enchantment
You may cast Aura and Equipment spells as though they had flash.

Whenever an Equipment enters the battlefield under your control, you may attach it to target creature you control
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: griffin131 on July 07, 2016, 05:51:25 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 07, 2016, 10:47:15 AMMy immediate thought was Jitte but is this card good enough for legacy?
Sure. Stone forge still makes you pay to equip. This plus stone forge is instant speed play and equip what you tutored.

Think bigger than Jitte (although that card is busted).
Trying to bolt my Mystic?  Flash in {Sword of Fire and Ice} so sorry.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 07, 2016, 07:33:51 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on July 07, 2016, 06:04:53 AM
Stunning Regrowth"
3G
Sorcery
Return all land cards from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.

Sidisay EDH says hi.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Mattao19 on July 07, 2016, 11:34:58 PM
Tron might have interest tbh ....
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Estel2931 on July 08, 2016, 12:23:39 PM
Full spoiler out
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Mattao19 on July 08, 2016, 03:18:54 PM
http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/fieldcreeper.html

BRONZE SABLE REPRINT!!!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Prplprince on July 08, 2016, 06:03:37 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 08, 2016, 03:18:54 PM
http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/fieldcreeper.html

BRONZE SABLE REPRINT!!!
It it's even better because it's a scarecrow!!!
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on July 08, 2016, 07:40:53 PM
Quote from: Prplprince on July 08, 2016, 06:03:37 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 08, 2016, 03:18:54 PM
http://mythicspoiler.com/emn/cards/fieldcreeper.html

BRONZE SABLE REPRINT!!!
It it's even better because it's a scarecrow!!!
Careful! HE might hear you. You don't want to anger his army of sables.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: Codester1991 on July 08, 2016, 07:55:41 PM
"He" is gone.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: redwolv on July 08, 2016, 08:25:26 PM
Quote from: Codester1991 on July 08, 2016, 07:55:41 PM
"He" is gone.
You're no fun. 😝

Anyway back on topic a bit. I am loving the flavor text this set.
Title: Re: ELDRITCH MOON
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on July 11, 2016, 06:01:58 PM
I have to say, I was skeptical at first, but this set isn't really looking half bad. It's just weird.