{Inverter of Truth}
Any way to do something evil and make this enter the battlefield of an opponent?
By controlling their turn, flashing him in on their turn, countering it with one of the counters that steals it?
Basically - no. Heavy dredge and then cast him maybe?
Make yourself safe from {Rise of the Dark Realms} shenanigans?
I don't know about forcing it to enter the battlefield under an opponents control, but if they play it for some reason you could you could use {Eldrazi Displacer} to force it to keep reentering the battlefield and essentially forcing them to mill themselves. You also could use it as a sultai lab maniac win con.
Is there anyway to force an opponent to gain control of target enchantment? You could use {Infinite Reflection} on The inverter and then have the opponent gain control of infinite reflections.
{Switcheroo}
Scratch that, I forgot it was only for creatures.
{Shifting Loyalties}
Quote from: mickeven on January 26, 2016, 12:40:25 PM
{Shifting Loyalties}
Perfect! They play any creature and they lose whats left in their deck of infinite reflections is attached to inverter.
Quote from: Noblellama on January 26, 2016, 12:55:39 PM
So what you are all saying, is that I have to {Stifle} the trigger for me, give them the inverter via {Donate} that bad boy, then flicker it with {Eldrazi Displacer}?
Exactly. And poof goes their deck. And you could also run a few lab maniacs as an alternate win con.
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on January 26, 2016, 12:58:08 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on January 26, 2016, 12:55:39 PM
So what you are all saying, is that I have to {Stifle} the trigger for me, give them the inverter via {Donate} that bad boy, then flicker it with {Eldrazi Displacer}?
Exactly. And poof goes their deck. And you could also run a few lab maniacs as an alternate win con.
Well actually if you flicker it with displacer your library would go away due to displacer saying owners control
Quote from: Dank Memes on January 26, 2016, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on January 26, 2016, 12:58:08 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on January 26, 2016, 12:55:39 PM
So what you are all saying, is that I have to {Stifle} the trigger for me, give them the inverter via {Donate} that bad boy, then flicker it with {Eldrazi Displacer}?
Exactly. And poof goes their deck. And you could also run a few lab maniacs as an alternate win con.
Well actually if you flicker it with displacer your library would go away due to displacer saying owners control
But what could work is playing {Inverter of Truth}, {Stifle} the enter the battlefield effect, {Infinite Reflection} Inverter, {Donate} infinite reflections, then use {Eldrazi Displacer} to flicker any of their non token creatures which would have it reenter the battlefield as an Inverter and activate the trigger the battlefield effect.
Posted a deck list in casual if anyone is interested :)
Guys, Blinky returns it under owners control...
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:43:50 PM
Guys, Blinky returns it under owners control...
That's the point. Turn their creatures into inverters and then blink one of them in.
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on January 26, 2016, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:43:50 PM
Guys, Blinky returns it under owners control...
That's the point. Turn their creatures into inverters and then blink one of them in.
Ah, oops. You're right. I thought you were blinking the original.
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on January 26, 2016, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:43:50 PM
Guys, Blinky returns it under owners control...
That's the point. Turn their creatures into inverters and then blink one of them in.
Ah, oops. You're right. I thought you were blinking the original.
Blinking the original would break everything since it would remove infinite reflections from the inverter.
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on January 26, 2016, 01:50:58 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on January 26, 2016, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:43:50 PM
Guys, Blinky returns it under owners control...
That's the point. Turn their creatures into inverters and then blink one of them in.
Ah, oops. You're right. I thought you were blinking the original.
Blinking the original would break everything since it would remove infinite reflections from the inverter.
Yup.
Alternative way: {Perplexing Chimera} any spell, so they get the chimera, then {mindslaver} them. In the following turn, flash in Inverter, have them chimera it. Profit.
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:55:07 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on January 26, 2016, 01:50:58 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on January 26, 2016, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:43:50 PM
Guys, Blinky returns it under owners control...
That's the point. Turn their creatures into inverters and then blink one of them in.
Ah, oops. You're right. I thought you were blinking the original.
Blinking the original would break everything since it would remove infinite reflections from the inverter.
Yup.
Alternative way: {Perplexing Chimera} any spell, so they get the chimera, then {mindslaver} them. In the following turn, flash in Inverter, have them chimera it. Profit.
That's just plain evil. But let's be honest here, {Mindslaver} is one of the most evil cards printed.
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on January 26, 2016, 02:04:44 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:55:07 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on January 26, 2016, 01:50:58 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:49:57 PM
Quote from: Thefluffymacheen on January 26, 2016, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on January 26, 2016, 01:43:50 PM
Guys, Blinky returns it under owners control...
That's the point. Turn their creatures into inverters and then blink one of them in.
Ah, oops. You're right. I thought you were blinking the original.
Blinking the original would break everything since it would remove infinite reflections from the inverter.
Yup.
Alternative way: {Perplexing Chimera} any spell, so they get the chimera, then {mindslaver} them. In the following turn, flash in Inverter, have them chimera it. Profit.
That's just plain evil. But let's be honest here, {Mindslaver} is one of the most evil cards printed.
That's true.
I must have missed something...how do you flash in the inverter?
Quote from: Noblellama on January 27, 2016, 05:43:26 AM
{Vedalken Orrery} (not previously mentioned)
For example. I tend to use "flash in" as shorthand, you'll have to give it flash somehow. Orrery, {prophet of Kruphix}, {quicken} in the case of a sorcery. There's just a lot of options to do so.
It's a great card for limited. 90% of cards in gy have been cast before. You know all the cards your getting. All your removal. Run on gas
@noblellama The Perplexing Chimera route is too wonky. I got you fam.
What you're looking to do can be accomplished with {Summoner's Egg}
Imprint your big bad, then {Donate} (or that other goblin guy can't remember his name) it.
Then sit back and snicker until it pops or have a {shatter} effect ready to go.
I got you, fam.
Quote from: DaxosReturned on March 05, 2016, 03:02:02 AM
@noblellama The Perplexing Chimera route is too wonky. I got you fam.
What you're looking to do can be accomplished with {Summoner's Egg}
Imprint your big bad, then {Donate} (or that other goblin guy can't remember his name) it.
Then sit back and snicker until it pops or have a {shatter} effect ready to go.
I got you, fam.
Do you got him, fam?
Quote from: DaxosReturned on March 05, 2016, 03:02:02 AM
@noblellama The Perplexing Chimera route is too wonky. I got you fam.
What you're looking to do can be accomplished with {Summoner's Egg}
Imprint your big bad, then {Donate} (or that other goblin guy can't remember his name) it.
Then sit back and snicker until it pops or have a {shatter} effect ready to go.
I got you, fam.
You're looking for {Bazaar Trader}.
Nice one, I never even knew that egg existed.
I think cause your opp now has the egg he takes the hit, not you
Yea no,
The {Bazar Trader}(thank you) or say {Gauntlets of Chaos} are there to let you Gift him the {Summoner's Egg} so he's the controller and he's the "you" that will put into play the {Inverter of Truth} so he will exile his library. @redwolv 's got it, i think.
Important to note that when you Imprimt it with the Egg, your Inverter goes basically to its own little exile zone under the Egg. Then the Egg changes hands. Then when It's cracked and {Phage the untouchable} comes out --err I mean the Inverter it goes "pappa! Pappa! Where are you, and finds your opponent.
I researched all this when building my Zedruu deck.
Best regards
I got him fam :P
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on March 05, 2016, 03:13:53 AM
Quote from: DaxosReturned on March 05, 2016, 03:02:02 AM
@noblellama The Perplexing Chimera route is too wonky. I got you fam.
What you're looking to do can be accomplished with {Summoner's Egg}
Imprint your big bad, then {Donate} (or that other goblin guy can't remember his name) it.
Then sit back and snicker until it pops or have a {shatter} effect ready to go.
I got you, fam.
Do you got him, fam?