6 cards in graveyard, {mirari} in play. I cast {epicenter}. I copy it. How does this go down? My opponent and I have differing views lol
You will have threshold.
You cast {Epicenter} and put {Mirari}'s triggered ability on the stack.
The copied {Epicenter} resolves first, each player sacrifices a land.
The original {Epicenter} resolves. During resolution you now have 7 cards in your gaveyard assuming you sacrificed a land. Each player sacrifices all lands they control.
Quote from: Sardok on January 24, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
You will have threshold.
You cast {Epicenter} and put {Mirari}'s triggered ability on the stack.
The copied {Epicenter} resolves first, each player sacrifices a land.
The original {Epicenter} resolves. During resolution you now have 7 cards in your gaveyard assuming you sacrificed a land. Each player sacrifices all lands they control.
But it says target player sacs a land. I'm targeting opponent.
Quote from: Sardok on January 24, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
You will have threshold.
You cast {Epicenter} and put {Mirari}'s triggered ability on the stack.
The copied {Epicenter} resolves first, each player sacrifices a land.
The original {Epicenter} resolves. During resolution you now have 7 cards in your gaveyard assuming you sacrificed a land. Each player sacrifices all lands they control.
Wrong.
Copied Epicenter resolves, opponent sacs a land - since he's targeting opponent.
No Threshold for when the original resolves because a spell isn't put into the graveyard until after its done resolving.
Quote from: griffin131 on January 24, 2016, 11:53:12 AM
Quote from: Sardok on January 24, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
You will have threshold.
You cast {Epicenter} and put {Mirari}'s triggered ability on the stack.
The copied {Epicenter} resolves first, each player sacrifices a land.
The original {Epicenter} resolves. During resolution you now have 7 cards in your gaveyard assuming you sacrificed a land. Each player sacrifices all lands they control.
Wrong.
Copied Epicenter resolves, opponent sacs a land - since he's targeting opponent.
No Threshold for when the original resolves because a spell isn't put into the graveyard until after its done resolving.
That's what I was saying. He's saying my epicenter spell is in the graveyard. I disagree
Copied spell resolves first ( so GY still at 6 ), then the original. That's where we differ.
My bad, I read it as each player sacrifices a land.
Nonetheless, if you choose to target yourself with the copied spell and sacrifice a land, you will have threshold when the original spell resolves.
Depending on board state, having your oppenent get rid of two lands is probably way cooler! In that case, if you were to give it rebound with {narset, transcendent}, does that actually take the card out of the yard, bringing you back below threshold? Because that would be just dandy😎
Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on January 24, 2016, 09:21:19 PM
Depending on board state, having your oppenent get rid of two lands is probably way cooler! In that case, if you were to give it rebound with {narset, transcendent}, does that actually take the card out of the yard, bringing you back below threshold? Because that would be just dandy😎
If you give a spell rebound it doesn't get in the graveyard until after it rebounds