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Title: wastes
Post by: imFourth of Phils on January 22, 2016, 11:14:05 AM
just want to double check, all colorless mana producing cards produce wastes right?
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: Sardok on January 22, 2016, 11:48:39 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on January 22, 2016, 11:14:05 AM
just want to double check, all colorless mana producing cards produce wastes right?

Nothing produces wastes. They produce colourless mana.
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: Kaylesh on January 22, 2016, 01:35:19 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on January 22, 2016, 11:56:44 AM
Quote from: Sardok on January 22, 2016, 11:48:39 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on January 22, 2016, 11:14:05 AM
just want to double check, all colorless mana producing cards produce wastes right?

Nothing produces wastes. They produce colourless mana.


Wizards of the Coast produces Wastes  ;)
All lands that produce colorless mana produce the same type of mana as wastes do, colorless mana.
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: Pardyr on January 22, 2016, 05:36:17 PM
So in a commander game with say a black commander can you also have wastes since it only produces coulorless mana
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: Pardyr on January 22, 2016, 05:52:33 PM
So I can have waste lands in a mono black deck
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: Pardyr on January 22, 2016, 07:00:35 PM
And at the same time can I have koz in my black deck like I can have the old one in there?
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: Kaylesh on January 23, 2016, 05:27:22 AM
Heard this one be confirmed by Sheldon Mennery himself in the Commanderin' 
MTG podcast.
Makes total sense too. Colorless, although it seems to be used as a sixth color for colorless matters in Kozi's brood, is NOT a sixth color.
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: imFourth of Phils on February 01, 2016, 09:03:53 PM
Quote from: Wizardmook on February 01, 2016, 08:49:58 PM
So  {Birds of Paradise} does not produce colourless mana?

yes, only {B} {U} {W} {R} {G}
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: redwolv on February 02, 2016, 10:49:48 AM
I think because it is a crutch. Calling it waste and treating it like a sixth color helps them distigush between colorless and generic mana. I really feel like WotC could have done a better job of explaining to people.
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: redwolv on February 02, 2016, 11:17:40 AM
I honestly don't know. To me the rules are clear. But if people still are struggling with it then idk. Plenty of people at my lgs only play locally so they don't follow WotC's website and rules sites.
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: imFourth of Phils on February 02, 2016, 11:26:12 AM
follow up question:

about commander, my commader is {Alesha, who Smiles at Death}, can i put {Eldrazi Displacer} inside the deck? thanks
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: redwolv on February 02, 2016, 11:32:27 AM
Quote from: imFourth of Phils on February 02, 2016, 11:26:12 AM
follow up question:

about commander, my commader is {Alesha, who Smiles at Death}, can i put {Eldrazi Displacer} inside the deck? thanks
Yes. Colorless mana is not a color thus does not affect a cards color identiy. As such eldrazi displacer has a white color identity.
Title: Re: wastes
Post by: imFourth of Phils on February 02, 2016, 11:34:40 AM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on February 02, 2016, 11:32:47 AM
Yup. Color identity is determines by mana symbols on the card. The displacer, although colorless, had a white symbol in its cost so it's considered color identity white

thank you