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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Maximo on April 28, 2012, 02:01:51 PM

Title: IMPORTANT flicker question
Post by: Maximo on April 28, 2012, 02:01:51 PM
About to start my prerelease need to know, does using {cloudshift} on a creature targeted by a kill spell fizzle the spell?
Title: Re: IMPORTANT flicker question
Post by: Greg54js on April 28, 2012, 02:37:25 PM
I'm going to say no because cloudshift resolves first putting the creature back on the battlefield and then the kill spell resolves targeting it.

Edit: if it said return the permanent at the beginning of the next end step, the kill spell would fizzle
Title: Re: IMPORTANT flicker question
Post by: Poof on April 28, 2012, 02:50:05 PM
As has been stated in a few recent topics on here once an object changes zones it's a brand new object the the spell that was targeting it has no memory of it and will fizzle
Title: Re: IMPORTANT flicker question
Post by: BlackJester on April 28, 2012, 02:58:38 PM
It will fizzle (not resolve for lack of a legal target).

If a permanent changes zones and returns, it is considered a new object.  Even if it happened within the same spell. 

http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/avacynrestored/mechanics#5

Also, any spells that have that "flickered" permanent as the only target will be countered.
Title: Re: IMPORTANT flicker question
Post by: Grexis on April 28, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 28, 2012, 02:58:38 PM
It will fizzle (not resolve for lack of a legal target).

If a permanent changes zones and returns, it is considered a new object.  Even if it happened within the same spell.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/avacynrestored/mechanics#5
Woo I was right!!(in my head) I didn't want to be the first to respond with a wrong answer haha but I guess I shouldn't be so scared