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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: imFourth of Phils on November 05, 2015, 09:21:29 PM

Title: Managorger Hydra
Post by: imFourth of Phils on November 05, 2015, 09:21:29 PM
i have a {Managorger Hydra} in battlefield

and im casting my next spell, but opponent counters that spell

does hydra gets 2x +1/+1?

thanks

Title: Re: Managorger Hydra
Post by: MuggyWuggy on November 05, 2015, 11:00:47 PM
Gorger no counters

You cast
Gorger counter trigger
They counter (cast)
Gorger counter trigger


If you wanna get technical
Title: Re: Managorger Hydra
Post by: imFourth of Phils on November 05, 2015, 11:30:12 PM
thanks thanks thanks
Title: Re: Managorger Hydra
Post by: griffin131 on November 05, 2015, 11:40:06 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on November 05, 2015, 10:24:25 PM
"Casting" refers to the act of putting the card from your hand onto the stack.
And paying mana for it, and selecting relevant targets...

You can't accidentally 500 counters because you keep forgetting to declare a target.
Title: Re: Managorger Hydra
Post by: Kaylesh on November 06, 2015, 01:53:43 AM
To go full technical:

601.2. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=601.2.): To cast a spell is to take it from where it is (usually the hand), put it on the stack, and pay its costs, so that it will eventually resolve and have its effect. Casting a spell includes proposal of the spell (rules 601.2a–e) and determination and payment of costs (rules 601.2f–h). To cast a spell, a player follows the steps listed below, in order. If, at any point during the casting of a spell, a player is unable to comply with any of the steps listed below, the casting of the spell is illegal; the game returns to the moment before the casting of that spell was proposed (see rule 717, "Handling Illegal Actions").

The last line illustrates why you don't get counters for a spell you couldn't cast. Gameplay rewinds to before the spell was cast even before abilities trigger off it.
Title: Re: Managorger Hydra
Post by: Kaylesh on November 06, 2015, 03:38:49 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on November 06, 2015, 03:29:11 AM
Hydra still gets 2 counters...
Yeah, Gorger still gets fed from counterspells