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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: theravenseye on September 17, 2015, 08:08:48 PM

Title: Throwing Knife
Post by: theravenseye on September 17, 2015, 08:08:48 PM
Need some rulings on this with concern to {Willlbreaker} and targeting. Check the deck "Steal All The Things" on the Standard thread.
Title: Re: Throwing Knife
Post by: griffin131 on September 17, 2015, 08:10:55 PM
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-rulings/621050-throwing-knife

Works fine.

The trigger must have a target to go onto the stack. You do not have to sac it to target something.
Title: Re: Throwing Knife
Post by: particle on September 17, 2015, 08:35:57 PM
{throwing knife}
Title: Re: Throwing Knife
Post by: griffin131 on September 17, 2015, 10:37:25 PM
It's amusing what people neg you for.

I said how it works, gave corroborating links, someone is upset.

Lawl.
Title: Re: Throwing Knife
Post by: Splicer on September 17, 2015, 11:02:55 PM
I came here thinking "this can't possibly work."

But

603.4. (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=603.4.): A triggered ability may read "When/Whenever/At [trigger event], if [condition], [effect]." When the trigger event occurs, the ability checks whether the stated condition is true. The ability triggers only if it is; otherwise it does nothing. If the ability triggers, it checks the stated condition again as it resolves. If the condition isn't true at that time, the ability is removed from the stack and does nothing. Note that this mirrors the check for legal targets. This rule is referred to as the "intervening 'if' clause" rule. (The word "if" has only its normal English meaning anywhere else in the text of a card; this rule only applies to an "if" that immediately follows a trigger condition.)
Example: Felidar Sovereign reads, "At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have 40 or more life, you win the game." Its controller's life total is checked as that player's upkeep begins. If that player has 39 or less life, the ability doesn't trigger at all. If that player has 40 or more life, the ability triggers and goes on the stack. As the ability resolves, that player's life total is checked again. If that player has 39 or less life at this time, the ability is removed from the stack and has no effect. If that player has 40 or more life at this time, the ability resolves and that player wins the game.
Title: Re: Throwing Knife
Post by: LinkCelestrial on September 18, 2015, 12:41:00 AM
So it doesn't trigger unless you sac? I'm so confused.

EDIT Read up on it. Makes sense now. Combo wombo and flavour flave with {Dismiss into Dream}.