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Title: Frank karstens post rotation mono red
Post by: Kaalia with haste on September 13, 2015, 09:12:06 AM
Debating getting into standard again with mono red. I would use something that looked like this:

4 {monastery swiftspear}
4 {abbot of keral keep}
3 {Zurgo bell striker}
2 {goblin glory chaser}
2 {goblin heel cutter}
2 {lightning berserker}
17 creatures

4 {dragon fodder}
4 {wild slash}
4 {exquisite fire craft}
4 {atarka's command}
3 {hordeling outburst}
1 {roast}
1 {fiery impulse}
1 {become immense}
22 instants/sorceries

4 {wooded foothills}
2 {windswept heath}
4 {cinder glade}
1 {forest}
10 {mountain}
21 lands
Title: Re: Frank karstens post rotation mono red
Post by: Kaylesh on September 13, 2015, 09:30:55 AM
Zada + {become immense}?

Zada will copy it upon cast for each creature. {G}: all creatures get +6/+6 upon cast unless a counter is played for that creature. Sounds like win.

Zada:
{3}{R} legendary goblin 3/3. When you cast an instant or sorcery that only targets Zedra, copy it for each creature you control targeting that creature.
Title: Re: Frank karstens post rotation mono red
Post by: Kaalia with haste on September 13, 2015, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 13, 2015, 09:30:55 AM
Zada + {become immense}?

Zada will copy it upon cast for each creature. {G}: all creatures get +6/+6 upon cast unless a counter is played for that creature. Sounds like win.

Zada:
{3}{R} legendary goblin 3/3. When you cast an instant or sorcery that only targets Zedra, copy it for each creature you control targeting that creature.
You just made me laugh out loud, it would certainly take my opponents by surprise xD.

That said, 4 mana is a bit much for this kind of deck though, especially for a 3/3 that doesn't do a whole lot on it's own.
Title: Re: Frank karstens post rotation mono red
Post by: Distriimuir on September 13, 2015, 05:35:29 PM
Nvm I'm an idiot lol
Title: Re: Frank karstens post rotation mono red
Post by: particle on September 16, 2015, 10:53:52 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 13, 2015, 09:30:55 AM
Zada + {become immense}?

Zada will copy it upon cast for each creature. {G}: all creatures get +6/+6 upon cast unless a counter is played for that creature. Sounds like win.

Zada:
{3}{R} legendary goblin 3/3. When you cast an instant or sorcery that only targets Zedra, copy it for each creature you control targeting that creature.

Note that even countering the original {become immense} will not counter the others. You would need something like {stifle} to counter zada's ability, or counter each copy individually on the stack.
Title: Re: Frank karstens post rotation mono red
Post by: Kaylesh on September 17, 2015, 10:30:09 AM
Quote from: particle on September 16, 2015, 10:53:52 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 13, 2015, 09:30:55 AM
Zada + {become immense}?

Zada will copy it upon cast for each creature. {G}: all creatures get +6/+6 upon cast unless a counter is played for that creature. Sounds like win.

Zada:
{3}{R} legendary goblin 3/3. When you cast an instant or sorcery that only targets Zedra, copy it for each creature you control targeting that creature.

Note that even countering the original {become immense} will not counter the others. You would need something like {stifle} to counter zada's ability, or counter each copy individually on the stack.
Yeah, that's the beauty of it.. With the hasty creature manadork and some cheap R/G weenie stuff this might be viable in BFZ standard...
Title: Re: Frank karstens post rotation mono red
Post by: Kaalia with haste on September 17, 2015, 05:17:06 PM
Probably not. 4 mana 3/3s are too easy to disrupt, and it's a lot of work to set up something that can just be chump blocked
Title: Re: Frank karstens post rotation mono red
Post by: Codester1991 on September 17, 2015, 06:17:38 PM
Probably not relevant towards this original post but I could see Zada in a Naya manifest deck where you flip him then become immense him and make all your morphs giant 8/8's

Yall know, your traditional morph/manifest package. Whisper wood elemental, mastery of unseen, den protector, deathmist, Zada, Etc
Title: Re: Frank karstens post rotation mono red
Post by: Mattao19 on September 18, 2015, 06:11:34 PM
I hate Red I despise it so much! I'm a blue player it's my natural enemy! BUT why on earth did they not reprint a lightning strike effect it's a format staple it's weird and bad they didnt print ine
Title: Re: Frank karstens post rotation mono red
Post by: Crossed on September 21, 2015, 12:37:01 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 18, 2015, 06:11:34 PM
I hate Red I despise it so much! I'm a blue player it's my natural enemy! BUT why on earth did they not reprint a lightning strike effect it's a format staple it's weird and bad they didnt print ine

For the same reason they didn't reprint a 1 drop mana dork. Too good for standard.