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Title: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Coolie2 on September 01, 2015, 01:16:59 AM
For anyone who hasnt already seen, "Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger" could be the new best Eldrazi and has brought light to the darkness surrounding the new exiling ability of Eldrazis.
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Spencer Addington on September 01, 2015, 02:56:40 AM
What will they do with kozilek and Emmy?! THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW!!!
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: MuggyWuggy on September 01, 2015, 04:54:26 AM
Maybe they won't even have them!
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on September 01, 2015, 06:22:54 AM
New titans?
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Kaalia with haste on September 01, 2015, 07:35:28 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on September 01, 2015, 06:22:54 AM
New titans?
Thought you were banned permanently?
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: rarehuntertay on September 01, 2015, 10:20:59 AM
At least on Zendikar...
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Coolie2 on September 01, 2015, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 01, 2015, 04:54:26 AM
Maybe they won't even have them!

Honestly, they probably will make reprints for them as well, as the three Eldrazi Titans are pretty important to the plot, and Emrakul is just KINDA the boss man.
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Distriimuir on September 01, 2015, 10:47:19 AM
We do have the future, maybe bolas released them knowing two would escape. Maybe he thinks their power can be his.
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Codester1991 on September 01, 2015, 10:52:43 AM
I was talking with some buds yesterday about the story lines yesterday and I think since the Titans can move through the planes already I feel as though Emmy and Kozilek are gonna be attacking other planes in the next sets so they can recycle the story. For example Emmrakul attacks ravnica(Jace and Gideon's connected tightly here) and Kozilek attacks Innistrad(mofo-infect Sorin's homeworld) I thought it'd be neat to see the destruction brought to worlds who have never seen the likes of the Eldrazi. It would be like the first time Bant had seen demons and dragons in forever on the Alara reborn set. Then once the eldrazi are defeated and all the walkers are at their weakest, Nicol Bolas swings in and steals all their power to become ultimate again. Boom!
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Coolie2 on September 01, 2015, 10:55:47 AM
Yes, but the Eldrazi were placed on Zendikar knowing that in order for them to escape, they would have to consume all of the plane's mana. And with Zendikar, they're gonna be there a while...
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: MacheteMable on September 01, 2015, 10:58:11 AM
Except Ulamog is the only one still on zendikar...been confirmed by Wizards.
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Codester1991 on September 01, 2015, 11:00:10 AM
They were only staying on the plane because it was so rich with mana, there was nothing holding them there anymore.
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: rarehuntertay on September 01, 2015, 11:00:16 AM
One of them invades Phyrexia... We get Phyrexdrazi... Which in turns resurrects Yawgmoth...
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Coolie2 on September 01, 2015, 11:00:18 AM
On their website?
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Codester1991 on September 01, 2015, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 01, 2015, 11:00:16 AM
One of them invades Phyrexia... We get Phyrexdrazi... Which in turns resurrects Yawgmoth...

Someone asked them this with their Q&A on their Twitter page and they responded "we'll just let you guys sort that one out" basically saying the R&D department want nothing to do with that mess lol
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: theravenseye on September 01, 2015, 11:07:54 AM
I like how people are like, eeww Ulamog.

Dude, you can just {Pillar of Light} that and go on with your day.
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on September 01, 2015, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on September 01, 2015, 07:35:28 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on September 01, 2015, 06:22:54 AM
New titans?
Thought you were banned permanently?
I thought I was too? 😜
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: theravenseye on September 01, 2015, 12:27:07 PM
Quote from: bravado883 on September 01, 2015, 12:26:00 PM
Quote from: theravenseye on September 01, 2015, 11:07:54 AM
I like how people are like, eeww Ulamog.

Dude, you can just {Pillar of Light} that and go on with your day.

Really? "Dies to {Pillar of Light}" is the reason it's not that great? Nay..."Exiles two anythings then dies to {Pillar of Light}"? Come on man, good card is good.

I'm not saying it's not great. I'm just saying that it's answerable. Chill out.
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: rarehuntertay on September 01, 2015, 12:27:58 PM
However, if not answered, the game will be over, quickly
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: theravenseye on September 01, 2015, 12:40:13 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 01, 2015, 12:27:58 PM
However, if not answered, the game will be over, quickly

True.
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Brawler_1337 on September 01, 2015, 01:33:18 PM
"New best Eldrazi" is a huge stretch. Is this guy better than the Infinite Gyre? I'd say so. Is he better than Emmy? Not even close. Emrakul is a royal pain to answer in the formats she's played in, and she completely wrecks the opponent's board once she swings. Cast Ulamog off of a {Show and Tell}ed {Omniscience}? You get a double {Vindicate} and then he probably eats a {Swords to Plowshares}. Cast Emrakul off of that Show and Tell? Well, then you get to {Time Walk} and leave your opponent with likely no permanents in play to untap with and only one turn to kill Emmy before she kills him.

New Ulamog can end the game quickly if he lands. Emmy just about ends the game the second she lands. Big difference.
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: MuggyWuggy on September 01, 2015, 02:47:55 PM
Quote from: theravenseye on September 01, 2015, 11:07:54 AM
I like how people are like, eeww Ulamog.

Dude, you can just {Pillar of Light} that and go on with your day.

Except that card rotates out of standard when bfz comes in...
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: rarehuntertay on September 01, 2015, 03:51:55 PM
Quote from: bravado883 on September 01, 2015, 03:02:56 PM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on September 01, 2015, 01:33:18 PM
"New best Eldrazi" is a huge stretch. Is this guy better than the Infinite Gyre? I'd say so. Is he better than Emmy? Not even close. Emrakul is a royal pain to answer in the formats she's played in, and she completely wrecks the opponent's board once she swings. Cast Ulamog off of a {Show and Tell}ed {Omniscience}? You get a double {Vindicate} and then he probably eats a {Swords to Plowshares}. Cast Emrakul off of that Show and Tell? Well, then you get to {Time Walk} and leave your opponent with likely no permanents in play to untap with and only one turn to kill Emmy before she kills him.

New Ulamog can end the game quickly if he lands. Emmy just about ends the game the second she lands. Big difference.

Although I agree with you generally, for sake of argument there is a 5 CMC difference. Also, against some decks exile top 20 is a lot worse than saccing six permanents. That being said, protection + Time Walk is whoa.
Time Walk ONLY if hard-cast. You will not Time Walk if  Emrakul is brought in via other means. But still, Flying Spaghetti Monster will spell doom 90% of the time...
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Kaalia with haste on September 01, 2015, 03:56:02 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on September 01, 2015, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on September 01, 2015, 07:35:28 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on September 01, 2015, 06:22:54 AM
New titans?
Thought you were banned permanently?
I thought I was too? 😜
Well welcome back man :)
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: MuggyWuggy on September 01, 2015, 04:49:38 PM
Then you get killed by kor allies the turn before you can cast him :(
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on September 01, 2015, 08:31:02 PM
No one noticed he doesn't get shuffled back in... T4 {gifts ungiven} into him and {unburial rites}.
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Deebiia on September 01, 2015, 08:37:59 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 01, 2015, 08:31:02 PM
No one noticed he doesn't get shuffled back in... T4 {gifts ungiven} into him and {unburial rites}.
A lot of people noticed that. That was one of the first things I noted at the least. That and then I realized he destroys two permanents instead of one. Also that  {Strionic Resonator} with his ability is baaaaaad.

Edit: Quick question. Would you be able to choose a new target for the "exile top 20" from Ulamog with the resonator?
Title: Re: THE NEW ULAMOG
Post by: Splicer on September 01, 2015, 09:12:08 PM
Quote from: Deebiia on September 01, 2015, 08:37:59 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 01, 2015, 08:31:02 PM
No one noticed he doesn't get shuffled back in... T4 {gifts ungiven} into him and {unburial rites}.
A lot of people noticed that. That was one of the first things I noted at the least. That and then I realized he destroys two permanents instead of one. Also that  {Strionic Resonator} with his ability is baaaaaad.

Edit: Quick question. Would you be able to choose a new target for the "exile top 20" from Ulamog with the resonator?
No, it doesn't have a target.