So, I was challenged by my Group of Magic players to build a competitive yet effective Ghave EDH/Commander deck list. I have found a few great cards, yet I'd like to know any suggestions. I would like to have it counter/token gen with the ability to sac for mana, to pair well with a Simic EDH that's infamous around my colleagues.
Thanks!
I can provide my latest list of needed 😁
Please do, I want to see your take on it. Also, do you want broken combo lists or something fun to play with your friends?
Also, love the name.
Thanks, those are my main strength! 😄
As for a list, I must warn you; I have compiled a literal ton of 144 cards in this list, so, reader beware.
As for crazy, I would prefer competitive, yet not so insane no one wants to square up to it! XD
My Simic EDH is a home brew, and it makes brown pants in my group
The *155* cards are as follows;
1x Ghave, Guru of Spores [Commander]
1x Abrupt Decay [Return to Ravnica] Foil
1x Loaming Shaman [Dissension] Foil
1x Doubling Season [Modern Masters] Foil
1x Parallel Lives [Innistrad] Foil
1x Primal Vigor [Commander 2013] Foil
1x Beastmaster Ascension [Commander 2014] Foil
1x Sarpadian Empires, Vol. VII [Time Spiral] Foil
1x Gavony Township [Innistrad] Foil
1x Bloom Tender [Eventide] Foil
1x Cauldron Haze [Eventide] Foil
1x Cauldron of Souls [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Deathbringer Liege [Eventide] Foil
1x Dire Undercurrents [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Disturbing Plot [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Dramatic Entrance [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Dream Salvage [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Fate Transfer [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Fetid Heath [Eventide] Foil
1x Guttural Response [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Mana Reflection [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Memory Plunder [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Polluted Bonds [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Regal Force [Eventide] Foil
1x Reknit [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Safewright Quest [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Batwing Brume [Archenemy] Foil
1x Castigate [Guildpact] Foil
1x Circle of Despair [Mirage] Foil
1x Crime [Dissension] Foil
1x Culling Sun [Guildpact] Foil
1x Death Grasp [Commander 2013] Foil
1x Aura Mutation [Invasion] Foil
1x Deathspore Thallid [Time Spiral] Foil
1x Elvish Farmer [Fallen Empires] Foil
1x Fertile Imagination [Dissension] Foil
1x Flash Foliage [Dissension] Foil
1x Fungal Sprouting [Magic 2013 (M13)] Foil
1x Golgari Germination [Duel Decks: Izzet vs. Golgari] Foil
1x Korozda Guildmage [Return to Ravnica] Foil
1x Morbid Bloom [Alara Reborn] Foil
1x Mycologist [Planar Chaos] Foil
1x Mycoloth [Planechase 2012] Foil
1x Necrogenesis [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x Night Soil [Commander 2013] Foil
1x Pallid Mycoderm [Modern Masters] Foil
1x Psychotrope Thallid [Planar Chaos] Foil
1x Saproling Symbiosis [Invasion] Foil
1x Scatter the Seeds [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x Seed Spark [Ravnica] Foil
1x Spontaneous Generation [Mercadian Masques] Foil
1x Spore Burst [Conflux] Foil
1x Sporesower Thallid [Modern Masters] Foil
1x Sprout [Time Spiral] Foil
1x Thallid Shell-Dweller [Modern Masters] Foil
1x Thelonite Hermit [Archenemy] Foil
1x Utopia Mycon [Future Sight] Foil
1x Verdeloth the Ancient [Modern Masters] Foil
1x Sol Ring [Commander 2014] Foil
7x Forest [Magic Origins] Foil
7x Swamp [Magic Origins] Foil
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x Trostani, Selesnya's Voice [Return to Ravnica] Foil
1x Biomantic Mastery [Dissension] Foil
1x Sylvan Tutor [Portal] Foil
1x Amulet of Vigor [Worldwake] Foil
1x Biomass Mutation [Gatecrash] Foil
1x Invert the Skies [Eventide] Foil
1x An-Havva Inn [Homelands] Foil
1x Asceticism [Scars of Mirrodin] Foil
1x Boon Reflection [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Rhox Faithmender [Magic 2013 (M13)] Foil
1x Alhammarret's Archive [Magic Origins] Foil
1x Hardened Scales [Khans of Tarkir] Foil
1x Kalonian Hydra [Magic 2014 (M14)] Foil
1x Managorger Hydra [Magic Origins] Foil
1x Phytohydra [Ravnica] Foil
1x Darksteel Forge [Magic 2014 (M14)] Foil
1x Darksteel Plate [Mirrodin Besieged] Foil
1x Eldrazi Monument [Zendikar] Foil
1x Indestructibility [Magic 2014 (M14)] Foil
1x Shield of the Oversoul [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x Soul of New Phyrexia [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x Withstand Death [Scars of Mirrodin] Foil
1x Valorous Stance [Fate Reforged] Foil
1x Swords to Plowshares [Conspiracy] Foil
1x Path to Exile [Modern Event Deck] Foil
1x Ajani, Mentor of Heroes [Journey into Nyx] Foil
1x Ajani Steadfast [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x Ajani Goldmane [Magic 2011 (M11)] Foil
1x Sorin Markov [Magic 2012 (M12)] Foil
1x Sorin, Lord of Innistrad [Duel Decks: Sorin vs. Tibalt] Foil
1x Sorin, Solemn Visitor [Khans of Tarkir] Foil
1x Liliana Vess [Duel Decks: Anthology] Foil
1x Liliana of the Dark Realms [Magic 2014 (M14)] Foil
1x Athreos, God of Passage [Journey into Nyx] Foil
1x Dictate of Heliod [Duel Decks: Elspeth vs. Kiora] Foil
1x Heliod, God of the Sun [Theros] Foil
1x Spear of Heliod [Theros] Foil
1x Erebos, God of the Dead [Theros] Foil
1x Whip of Erebos [Theros] Foil
1x Dictate of Erebos [Journey into Nyx] Foil
1x Bow of Nylea [Theros] Foil
1x Adaptive Automaton [Magic 2012 (M12)] Foil
1x Caged Sun [Commander 2014] Foil
1x Creakwood Liege [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x Door of Destinies [Magic 2014 (M14)] Foil
1x Gaea's Anthem [Planar Chaos] Foil
1x Glorious Anthem [10th Edition] Foil
1x Hall of Triumph [Journey into Nyx] Foil
1x Honor of the Pure [Modern Event Deck] Foil
1x Leyline of Vitality [Magic 2011 (M11)] Foil
1x Leyline of Sanctity [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x Leyline of the Void [Magic 2011 (M11)] Foil
1x Leyline of the Meek [Guildpact] Foil
1x Marshal's Anthem [Commander 2014] Foil
1x Maw of the Obzedat [Dragon's Maze] Foil
1x Mirari's Wake [Conspiracy] Foil
1x Paragon of New Dawns [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x Paragon of Open Graves [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x Paragon of Eternal Wilds [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x Sigil Blessing [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x Triumph of the Hordes [New Phyrexia] Foil
1x Valor in Akros [Magic Origins] Foil
1x Zealous Persecution [Modern Event Deck] Foil
1x Wilt-Leaf Liege [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord [Return to Ravnica] Foil
1x Vigor Mortis [Duel Decks: Izzet vs. Golgari] Foil
1x Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x Kabira Vindicator [Duel Decks: Knights vs. Dragons] Foil
1x Mycosynth Lattice [Darksteel]
1x Glissa, the Traitor [Mirrodin Besieged]
1x Phyrexian Altar [Invasion]
1x Phyrexian Unlife [New Phyrexia]
1x Melira, Sylvok Outcast [New Phyrexia]
1x Sprouting Phytohydra [Dissension]
1x Pariah [10th Edition]
1x Pariah's Shield [Ravnica]
1x Hex Parasite [New Phyrexia]
1x Aphotic Wisps [Shadowmoor]
Also, ignore the foil brackets, I had been messing around with the settings, and may have made a lot of foils.....
Also, this is by no means complete
This deck really is focused on two things; making a army of fierce saprolings to either sac mana out of all orifices, or swing for a massive amount in one combat
Quote from: Temur, Simic Visionary on August 31, 2015, 02:38:36 AM
The *155* cards are as follows;
1x {Ghave, Guru of Spores} [Commander]
1x {Abrupt Decay} [Return to Ravnica] Foil
1x {Loaming Shaman} [Dissension] Foil
1x {Doubling Season} [Modern Masters] Foil
1x {Parallel Lives} [Innistrad] Foil
1x {Primal Vigor} [Commander 2013] Foil
1x {Beastmaster Ascension} [Commander 2014] Foil
1x {Sarpadian Empires, Vol. VII} [Time Spiral] Foil
1x {Gavony Township} [Innistrad] Foil
1x {Bloom Tender} [Eventide] Foil
1x {Cauldron Haze} [Eventide] Foil
1x {Cauldron of Souls} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Deathbringer Liege} [Eventide] Foil
1x {Dire Undercurrents} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Disturbing Plot} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Dramatic Entrance} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Dream Salvage} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Fate Transfer} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Fetid Heath} [Eventide] Foil
1x {Guttural Response} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Mana Reflection} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Memory Plunder} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Polluted Bonds} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Regal Force} [Eventide] Foil
1x {Reknit} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Safewright Quest} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Batwing Brume} [Archenemy] Foil
1x {Castigate} [Guildpact] Foil
1x {Circle of Despair} [Mirage] Foil
1x {Crime} [Dissension] Foil
1x {Culling Sun} [Guildpact] Foil
1x {Death Grasp} [Commander 2013] Foil
1x {Aura Mutation} [Invasion] Foil
1x {Deathspore Thallid} [Time Spiral] Foil
1x {Elvish Farmer} [Fallen Empires] Foil
1x {Fertile Imagination} [Dissension] Foil
1x {Flash Foliage} [Dissension] Foil
1x {Fungal Sprouting} [Magic 2013 (M13)] Foil
1x {Golgari Germination} [Duel Decks: Izzet vs. Golgari] Foil
1x {Korozda Guildmage} [Return to Ravnica] Foil
1x {Morbid Bloom} [Alara Reborn] Foil
1x {Mycologist} [Planar Chaos] Foil
1x {Mycoloth} [Planechase 2012] Foil
1x {Necrogenesis} [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x {Night Soil} [Commander 2013] Foil
1x {Pallid Mycoderm} [Modern Masters] Foil
1x {Psychotrope Thallid} [Planar Chaos] Foil
1x {Saproling Symbiosis} [Invasion] Foil
1x {Scatter the Seeds} [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x {Seed Spark} [Ravnica] Foil
1x {Spontaneous Generation} [Mercadian Masques] Foil
1x {Spore Burst} [Conflux] Foil
1x {Sporesower Thallid} [Modern Masters] Foil
1x {Sprout} [Time Spiral] Foil
1x {Thallid Shell-Dweller} [Modern Masters] Foil
1x {Thelonite Hermit} [Archenemy] Foil
1x {Utopia Mycon} [Future Sight] Foil
1x {Verdeloth the Ancient} [Modern Masters] Foil
1x {Sol Ring} [Commander 2014] Foil
7x {Forest} [Magic Origins] Foil
7x {Swamp} [Magic Origins] Foil
1x {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x {Trostani, Selesnya's Voice} [Return to Ravnica] Foil
1x {Biomantic Mastery} [Dissension] Foil
1x {Sylvan Tutor} [Portal] Foil
1x {Amulet of Vigor} [Worldwake] Foil
1x {Biomass Mutation} [Gatecrash] Foil (you can't use this for Ghave die to it's blue part)
1x {Invert the Skies} [Eventide] Foil
1x {An-Havva Inn} [Homelands] Foil
1x {Asceticism} [Scars of Mirrodin] Foil
1x {Boon Reflection} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Rhox Faithmender} [Magic 2013 (M13)] Foil
1x {Alhammarret's Archive} [Magic Origins] Foil
1x {Hardened Scales} [Khans of Tarkir] Foil
1x {Kalonian Hydra} [Magic 2014 (M14)] Foil
1x {Managorger Hydra} [Magic Origins] Foil
1x {Phytohydra} [Ravnica] Foil
1x {Darksteel Forge} [Magic 2014 (M14)] Foil
1x {Darksteel Plate} [Mirrodin Besieged] Foil
1x {Eldrazi Monument} [Zendikar] Foil
1x {Indestructibility} [Magic 2014 (M14)] Foil
1x {Shield of the Oversoul} [Shadowmoor] Foil
1x {Soul of New Phyrexia} [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x {Withstand Death} [Scars of Mirrodin] Foil
1x {Valorous Stance} [Fate Reforged] Foil
1x {Swords to Plowshares} [Conspiracy] Foil
1x {Path to Exile} [Modern Event Deck] Foil
1x {Ajani, Mentor of Heroes} [Journey into Nyx] Foil
1x {Ajani Steadfast} [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x {Ajani Goldmane} [Magic 2011 (M11)] Foil
1x {Sorin Markov} [Magic 2012 (M12)] Foil
1x {Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} [Duel Decks: Sorin vs. Tibalt] Foil
1x {Sorin, Solemn Visitor} [Khans of Tarkir] Foil
1x {Liliana Vess} [Duel Decks: Anthology] Foil
1x {Liliana of the Dark Realms} [Magic 2014 (M14)] Foil
1x {Athreos, God of Passage} [Journey into Nyx] Foil
1x {Dictate of Heliod} [Duel Decks: Elspeth vs. Kiora] Foil
1x {Heliod, God of the Sun} [Theros] Foil
1x {Spear of Heliod} [Theros] Foil
1x Erebos, God of the Dead [Theros] Foil
1x {Whip of Erebos} [Theros] Foil
1x {Dictate of Erebos} [Journey into Nyx] Foil
1x {Bow of Nylea} [Theros] Foil
1x {Adaptive Automaton} [Magic 2012 (M12)] Foil
1x {Caged Sun} [Commander 2014] Foil
1x {Creakwood Liege} [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x {Door of Destinies} [Magic 2014 (M14)] Foil
1x {Gaea's Anthem} [Planar Chaos] Foil
1x {Glorious Anthem} [10th Edition] Foil
1x {Hall of Triumph} [Journey into Nyx] Foil
1x {Honor of the Pure} [Modern Event Deck] Foil
1x {Leyline of Vitality} [Magic 2011 (M11)] Foil
1x {Leyline of Sanctity} [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x {Leyline of the Void} [Magic 2011 (M11)] Foil
1x {Leyline of the Meek} [Guildpact] Foil
1x {Marshal's Anthem} [Commander 2014] Foil
1x {Maw of the Obzedat} [Dragon's Maze] Foil
1x {Mirari's Wake} [Conspiracy] Foil
1x {Paragon of New Dawns} [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x {Paragon of Open Graves} [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x {Paragon of Eternal Wilds} [Magic 2015 (M15)] Foil
1x {Sigil Blessing} [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x {Triumph of the Hordes} [New Phyrexia] Foil
1x {Valor in Akros} [Magic Origins] Foil
1x {Zealous Persecution} [Modern Event Deck] Foil
1x {Wilt-Leaf Liege} [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x {Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord} [Return to Ravnica] Foil
1x {Vigor Mortis} [Duel Decks: Izzet vs. Golgari] Foil
1x {Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite} [Modern Masters 2015] Foil
1x {Kabira Vindicator} [Duel Decks: Knights vs. Dragons] Foil
1x {Mycosynth Lattice} [Darksteel]
1x {Glissa, the Traitor} [Mirrodin Besieged]
1x {Phyrexian Altar} [Invasion]
1x {Phyrexian Unlife} [New Phyrexia]
1x {Melira, Sylvok Outcast} [New Phyrexia]
1x {Sprouting Phytohydra} [Dissension]
1x {Pariah} [10th Edition]
1x {Pariah's Shield} [Ravnica]
1x {Hex Parasite} [New Phyrexia]
1x {Aphotic Wisps} [Shadowmoor]
Also, ignore the foil brackets, I had been messing around with the settings, and may have made a lot of foils.....
Also, this is by no means complete
I see that some of the cards here make no sense(Hall of Triumph, Honor of the Pure, etc.)
I can refine a list for you if you'd like.
{Memory plunge} and {fate transfer} arent legal in this deck
If there is a hybrid mana that isnt withon your commanders color identity, you cant use it :/
So that makes making cuts a little easier :)
Could be I missed it, but {hardened scales}.
Quote from: Popper23345 on August 31, 2015, 04:17:48 PM
{Memory plunge} and {fate transfer} arent legal in this deck
If there is a hybrid mana that isnt withon your commanders color identity, you cant use it :/
So that makes making cuts a little easier :)
Sorry, I hadn't noticed them XD Thanks, but a lot of this deck was just built around the mentality of, "this looks pretty stupid let's try this"
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 31, 2015, 05:36:13 PM
Could be I missed it, but {hardened scales}.
Yeah I make sure to grab that! A easy one drop enchantment with more counters! My favorite! I also happen to have a copy in my simic commander as well, that's how I learned of it
Quote from: theravenseye on August 31, 2015, 03:59:15 PM
Quote from: Temur, Simic Visionary on August 31, 2015, 02:38:36 AM
I see that some of the cards here make no sense(Hall of Triumph, Honor of the Pure, etc.)
I can refine a list for you if you'd like.
I see, but my intention was to make those tokens a little bit bigger, and give me more available options to get the mana that I need! Although I do thank you for your comment
Also, try the {Greater Good}+{Gravepact}/{Dictate of Erebos} combo.
I thought dying and sacing were diffrent
Quote from: Temur, Simic Visionary on August 31, 2015, 11:03:24 PM
I thought dying and sacing were diffrent
A sacrificed creature dies and triggers any such effects. It does work the way he wants it to.
Quote from: Ekann1 on August 31, 2015, 11:24:49 PM
Quote from: Temur, Simic Visionary on August 31, 2015, 11:03:24 PM
I thought dying and sacing were diffrent
A sacrificed creature dies and triggers any such effects. It does work the way he wants it to.
To die in mtg terms = to be put in the graveyard from play.
Sacrifice = put a creature you control (from play) in the graveyard.
Then a Library of Leng should solve the problem, right?
Quote from: Temur, Simic Visionary on September 01, 2015, 01:32:38 PM
Then a Library of Leng should solve the problem, right?
{library of leng} affects discarding, which is putting a card into the graveyard from your hand. To my knowledge there is no card that lets you recycle sacrificed creatures just like that, though there are (mostly black, some white) cards that can pull cards out of the graveyard onto the field, giving about the same effect. (Aka reanimation)
{Lifeline} might be the closest that you get to recycling creatures
I was speaking for the the Greater Good Combo
Quote from: Temur, Simic Visionary on September 01, 2015, 08:37:56 PM
I was speaking for the the Greater Good Combo
Ah, oops. Yeah for the greater good there are several nice ones. Leng, {Anvil of Bogardan} (though best in combo with Leng), {Reliquary Tower}, {Spellbook}, {Venser's Journal}.
{Praetor's Counsel} Could be nice too, as it's both getting creatures back & your hand size is set for the rest of the game. (Pretty much like an emblem, no removal can change it).
{Price of Knowledge} is also an option in your colors, yet is mostly used when you are on a path of getting your opponent to have a massive hand.
{Strangleroot Geist} + {ashnod's altar} = infinitely huge ghave.
Any undying + {ashnod's altar} really.
{mikaeus, the unhallowed} could be the altar boy...
All this Undying talk is making me queasy; an absolute travesty to my preconceived notions of evil....amazing! I'm sure to impress and Distress some of them; Thanks for all the awesome input!
Quote from: Temur, Simic Visionary on September 02, 2015, 11:54:04 PM
All this Undying talk is making me queasy; an absolute travesty to my preconceived notions of evil....amazing! I'm sure to impress and {Distress} some of them; Thanks for all the awesome input!
Sorry. Had to xD
Don't stop! These are all awesome ideas!
{Corpsejack Menace} is a great synergy with ghave, {vindicate}, {utter end}, {pernicious deed}, and {gaze of granite} are useful board control, and I used to play {spiritmonger} cause it's so good against the swords of this and that, and it's beef making more counters. {alpha authority} for protection. Also, the "morbid" mechanic from innistrad block is fantastic cause it's so easy to trigger in this build. Like {tragic slip}, sooo good.