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Mill 60 cards, 15 sideboard 2 {Shelldock Isle} 1 {Godless Shrine} 4 {Polluted Delta} 1 {Ghost Quarter} 1 {Oboro, Palace in the Clouds} 2 {Hallowed Fountain} 1 {Plains} 3 {Watery Grave} 1 {Island} 1 {Swamp} 4 {Flooded Strand} 21 lands 4 {Hedron Crab} 4 {Jace's Phantasm} 8 creatures 2 {Mind Funeral} 4 {Path to Exile} 4 {Glimpse the Unthinkable} 2 {Mesmeric Orb} 4 {Thought Scour} 4 {Archive Trap} 3 {Surgical Extraction} 4 {Visions of Beyond} 4 {Breaking // Entering} 31 other spells Sideboard 3 {Leyline of Sanctity} 4 {Disenchant} 3 {Ensnaring Bridge} 2 {Engineered Explosives} 3 {Crypt Incursion} 15 sideboard cards Notes:

Decklist have no love for snappy? Or is it your wallet that has no love for snappy? :))

A little of both, proxied him for a little (because omg that's expensive as f...)  it's nice and all, but in the end ur paying 4 mana for mill 10 (hopefully) and all u get is a cheap blocker.  There's no shenanigans either because mill is sorcery speed so it's not like u can even use his flash.  And since I run phantasm, I don't really need the blocker so all in all, it's not worth running.  But in my original list he was there. :P

That makes sense. Although, if you flashed an archive trap, could you play the trap cost?

Yes u could, but then there is another problem, what to take out for 4 snaps?

I don't know, for the reasons you stated you might not need him.

Quote from: Splicer on August 13, 2015, 08:16:51 PM
That makes sense. Although, if you flashed an archive trap, could you play the trap cost?

Snapcaster checks the CMC, a Snappied Archive is ALWAYS 5. BTW, he's insane in here. Being able to run 8 Paths is pretty sick.

Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on August 13, 2015, 08:50:19 PM

Quote from: Splicer on August 13, 2015, 08:16:51 PM
That makes sense. Although, if you flashed an archive trap, could you play the trap cost?

Snapcaster checks the CMC, a Snappied Archive is ALWAYS 5. BTW, he's insane in here. Being able to run 8 Paths is pretty sick.

After checking the rules, this is correct, no 0 cost flashback. 8 paths is nice, however, engineered explosives also helps with destruction should I need it.  I only run 10 non land permanents

My deck is roughly 65/75 as compared to yours. I once had ashiok but realised that for 3 mana i would rather just mill them out for another 8-10 cards. Is that why you dont play it?

The main difference in my list to yours is that i run a bit of disruption as well, as well as a very light counter suite (that im still not quite sold on.) I also have 22 lands. But im running 2 x ghost quarter main board, as that helps fuel archive trap, and if they are refusing to search their library i just nuke my own land when i have a couple of crabs out.

Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on August 13, 2015, 09:29:38 PM
My deck is roughly 65/75 as compared to yours. I once had ashiok but realised that for 3 mana i would rather just mill them out for another 8-10 cards. Is that why you dont play it?

The main difference in my list to yours is that i run a bit of disruption as well, as well as a very light counter suite (that im still not quite sold on.) I also have 22 lands. But im running 2 x ghost quarter main board, as that helps fuel archive trap, and if they are refusing to search their library i just nuke my own land when i have a couple of crabs out.

As to the ashiok, I played him when {heroes downfall} had its run and realized I was spending 3 mana to mill 3, so I traded him out for the funeral, I should try him back in again to see how he works, as he also takes a target off my back for a short amount of time.  I'll get back to u on that.