If i blink an opponents creature using rubinia soulsinger and mistmeadow witch it becomes under my control without rubinia needing to stay tapped. But what happens if an opponent plays chaos warp which makes me shuffle it into my library? Do I actually shuffle it into my library? (First time posting in a while sorry if I didn't do the card names right)
I believe Chaos warp says "owners library" not "controllers library". You Own the card if it was in the deck you presented originally. You Control the card if it under your control during the current game.
That makes sense. Thanks so much.
Quote from: ducttapetitan on August 06, 2015, 12:39:38 AM
If i blink an opponents creature using {rubinia soulsinger} and {mistmeadow witch} it becomes under my control without rubinia needing to stay tapped. But what happens if an opponent plays {chaos warp} which makes me shuffle it into my library? Do I actually shuffle it into my library? (First time posting in a while sorry if I didn't do the card names right)
Quote this post for the fancy curly brackets system for the links.
As for an answer to your question:
The owner of the permanent shuffles it in and reveals cards. So even if you control it, warp will give your opponent the creature.
On the combo:
How do you execute this one?
{mistmeadow witch} on the controlled creature gives it back to owner, as does flickering Rubinia. (She leaves the battlefield, so you lose control).
Something that could pull this off would be {bazaar trader}. Give control of the stolen creature to you. That control effect would be the last to apply, so you keep the creature after Rubinia untaps.
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 06, 2015, 06:39:12 AM
Quote from: ducttapetitan on August 06, 2015, 12:39:38 AM
If i blink an opponents creature using {rubinia soulsinger} and {mistmeadow witch} it becomes under my control without rubinia needing to stay tapped. But what happens if an opponent plays {chaos warp} which makes me shuffle it into my library? Do I actually shuffle it into my library? (First time posting in a while sorry if I didn't do the card names right)
Quote this post for the fancy curly brackets system for the links.
As for an answer to your question:
The owner of the permanent shuffles it in and reveals cards. So even if you control it, warp will give your opponent the creature.
On the combo:
How do you execute this one?
{mistmeadow witch} on the controlled creature gives it back to owner, as does flickering Rubinia. (She leaves the battlefield, so you lose control).
Something that could pull this off would be {goblin trader}. Give control of the stolen creature to you. That control effect would be the last to apply, so you keep the creature after Rubinia untaps.
You mean {bazaar trader}. Goblin trader isn't a thing.
Quote from: particle on August 06, 2015, 09:55:41 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 06, 2015, 06:39:12 AM
Quote from: ducttapetitan on August 06, 2015, 12:39:38 AM
If i blink an opponents creature using {rubinia soulsinger} and {mistmeadow witch} it becomes under my control without rubinia needing to stay tapped. But what happens if an opponent plays {chaos warp} which makes me shuffle it into my library? Do I actually shuffle it into my library? (First time posting in a while sorry if I didn't do the card names right)
Quote this post for the fancy curly brackets system for the links.
As for an answer to your question:
The owner of the permanent shuffles it in and reveals cards. So even if you control it, warp will give your opponent the creature.
On the combo:
How do you execute this one?
{mistmeadow witch} on the controlled creature gives it back to owner, as does flickering Rubinia. (She leaves the battlefield, so you lose control).
Something that could pull this off would be {goblin trader}. Give control of the stolen creature to you. That control effect would be the last to apply, so you keep the creature after Rubinia untaps.
You mean {bazaar trader}. Goblin trader isn't a thing.
Oops. That was the one I meant, yes. Tx
Meant to point out to devs but forgot to post that the card {{kaylesh}} accidentally linked doesn't actually exist for that set in ice age which is why it's picture is a different card.{goblin raider}. There's actually a bunch of extra copies of it in the database that don't exist and thus have a different picture. Thanks.
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 06, 2015, 06:39:12 AM
Quote from: ducttapetitan on August 06, 2015, 12:39:38 AM
If i blink an opponents creature using {rubinia soulsinger} and {mistmeadow witch} it becomes under my control without rubinia needing to stay tapped. But what happens if an opponent plays {chaos warp} which makes me shuffle it into my library? Do I actually shuffle it into my library? (First time posting in a while sorry if I didn't do the card names right)
Quote this post for the fancy curly brackets system for the links.
As for an answer to your question:
The owner of the permanent shuffles it in and reveals cards. So even if you control it, warp will give your opponent the creature.
On the combo:
How do you execute this one?
{mistmeadow witch} on the controlled creature gives it back to owner, as does flickering Rubinia. (She leaves the battlefield, so you lose control).
Something that could pull this off would be {bazaar trader}. Give control of the stolen creature to you. That control effect would be the last to apply, so you keep the creature after Rubinia untaps.
a simple {Cloudshift} would do it too. {Isochron Scepter} the Cloudshift and you have the combo forever and ever
Quote from: particle on August 06, 2015, 10:13:17 PM
Meant to point out to devs but forgot to post that the card {{kaylesh}} accidentally linked doesn't actually exist for that set in ice age which is why it's picture is a different card.{goblin raider}. There's actually a bunch of extra copies of it in the database that don't exist and thus have a different picture. Thanks.
Nice, my mistake actually turns up a bug.
Seen this kind of bug before. The picture is actually the correct card, but the database entry is wrong..
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 07, 2015, 05:34:52 AM
Quote from: particle on August 06, 2015, 10:13:17 PM
Meant to point out to devs but forgot to post that the card {{kaylesh}} accidentally linked doesn't actually exist for that set in ice age which is why it's picture is a different card.{goblin raider}. There's actually a bunch of extra copies of it in the database that don't exist and thus have a different picture. Thanks.
Nice, my mistake actually turns up a bug.
Seen this kind of bug before. The picture is actually the correct card, but the database entry is wrong..
The picture for the card linked isn't correct, it's {blinking spirit}. There's no {goblin raider} from ice age. And blinking spirit has more than one printing and only has one in the db.
Quote from: particle on August 07, 2015, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 07, 2015, 05:34:52 AM
Quote from: particle on August 06, 2015, 10:13:17 PM
Meant to point out to devs but forgot to post that the card {{kaylesh}} accidentally linked doesn't actually exist for that set in ice age which is why it's picture is a different card.{goblin raider}. There's actually a bunch of extra copies of it in the database that don't exist and thus have a different picture. Thanks.
Nice, my mistake actually turns up a bug.
Seen this kind of bug before. The picture is actually the correct card, but the database entry is wrong..
The picture for the card linked isn't correct, it's {blinking spirit}. There's no {goblin raider} from ice age. Band blinking spirit has more than one printing and only has one in the db.
Yeah, the "raiders" with the spirit pics should be spirits. Ice age, 4th and 5th edition I believe.