Ok so since I've been getting into a more financially better state... I've been thinking about making a legacy deck for myself and wanted to know wat your guys opinions are on wat to build is .... I'm a control player, who loves a good long game lol ... so throw me some ideas!
Miracles or bug
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 31, 2015, 08:32:06 PM
Miracles or bug
I may go with miracles it sounds like a me deck
I also like a good discard deck if that's a thing idk lol
Was also thinking jeskai burn ... I do love fire lol
U/B Tezzeret control is sweet.
Quote from: MommaB on July 31, 2015, 08:54:39 PM
Was also thinking jeskai burn ... I do love fire lol
Miracles with Keranos is sexy
Check out joe losset he's a great miracles player and he streams on twitch a lot.
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:30:49 PM
U/B Tezzeret control is sweet.
That sounds sick. Is there a list on here?
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 01, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:30:49 PM
U/B Tezzeret control is sweet.
That sounds sick. Is there a list on here?
Here's a list. Not exactly what I'd do but still cool:
http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=9896&d=257092&f=LE
I play a ponder/legends miracles hybrid. I really like it. It has it's pros and cons. Main pro being that it shores up the bad matchups. Makes it a little worse against storm though.
Quote from: Falcon182 on August 01, 2015, 03:27:01 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 01, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:30:49 PM
U/B Tezzeret control is sweet.
That sounds sick. Is there a list on here?
Here's a list. Not exactly what I'd do but still cool:
http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=9896&d=257092&f=LE
I dig. Thanks.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 01, 2015, 07:08:44 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on August 01, 2015, 03:27:01 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on August 01, 2015, 12:49:38 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:30:49 PM
U/B Tezzeret control is sweet.
That sounds sick. Is there a list on here?
Here's a list. Not exactly what I'd do but still cool:
http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=9896&d=257092&f=LE
I dig. Thanks.
Touché this thing looks pretty awesome may tweet it a little but cool idea
Nice thing about legacy: your deck isn't rotating this October
And mana fixing is present
Standard = lose to mana screw or flood more often than interaction
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 03, 2015, 11:19:26 AM
Nice thing about legacy: your deck isn't rotating this October
And mana fixing is present
Standard = lose to mana screw or flood more often than interaction
My game play time is minimal with a full time job and two kids, so I choose to play only legacy. I don't play enough to make a rotating format worth it. Plus legacy is frickin awesome.
Yeah standard changes too much, modern seems so much more meta based around a new card or exPloit. Legacy just seems to be solid deck vs solid deck
Legacy is cheaper to play than standard if you plan on playing for more than a couple of years. Id much rather invest a solid $2000 straight up once, then occasionally tweak every 3 or 4 years when something gets printed that might change things, rather than spending $400-500 every time a block rotates and new decks have to be made. And legacy decks dont have to cost that much either. I just have expensive tastes.
On top of this. As I've found out. Once you get the staples, the lands are your only real barrier to other decks.
That {The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale}
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 03, 2015, 09:17:29 PM
That {The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale}
Only one deck plays this land!
And if im being completely honest, as much as I love standard, modern is infinitely more fun to play. And legacy is even more fun to play than modern. You have to be wary of your spell being countered turn one when you are on the play. When you are on the draw you have to be wary of your fetchland being stifled on turn 1. There are so many decision trees and that makes it infinitely more fun to play (in my opinion). That in itself is worth the intial extra cost of getting into it. Your bonus is your cards dont rotate out.
Yeah unfortunately standard is dominated by new cards that work for the format and nothing else.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 03, 2015, 11:26:38 PM
Yeah unfortunately standard is dominated by new cards that work for the format and nothing else.
This is probably the biggest realization when going from standard to modern/legacy
Quote from: MacheteMable on August 04, 2015, 01:26:31 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 03, 2015, 11:26:38 PM
Yeah unfortunately standard is dominated by new cards that work for the format and nothing else.
This is probably the biggest realization when going from standard to modern/legacy
Yeah there's a lot of feelbads when you buy $50 worth of cards that end up worth $3 in a few months.
I wish everyone understood this. We had an entire podcast episode on why legacy was great and not as expensive as people think, but I still get stuff all the time about it being too slow or stagnant. Sigh.
I agree with you guys.
But the thing is is that the original investment is so high. In the long run lgcy is cheaper but not everyone has the kind of money to buy a set of fows
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2015, 01:45:26 PM
I agree with you guys.
But the thing is is that the original investment is so high. In the long run lgcy is cheaper but not everyone has the kind of money to buy a set of fows
That's why you start with burn. Or elves. Or death and taxes. Or belcher. Or dwarven belcher. Or cascade-balance. Or manaless dredge.....
Why would somebody play a deck they don't want to play just to play a format they've never played before? Sure those decks are cheap but if I want to play lands or miracles then I'm certainly not going to start with shitty combo or burn.
Also elves and DnT are awesome decks but are in no way budget friendly
Also, to play devils advocate, some could say that it's fun to play standard because it is always changing. Yeah it may be more expensive, but you get to see and play a lot of different play styles. You can also start playing standard and do relatively well with a cheapish deck. (I know from experience)
I'd just like to point out, I started playing standard but I enjoy playing modern a lot more (and legacy on untap)
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2015, 02:08:02 PM
Why would somebody play a deck they don't want to play just to play a format they've never played before? Sure those decks are cheap but if I want to play lands or miracles then I'm certainly not going to start with shitty combo or burn.
Also elves and DnT are awesome decks but are in no way budget friendly
If you don't like a deck, of course don't play it in any format. I was giving a few examples of less expensive decks (yeah, elves and DandT are sort of middle cost for legacy, I was giving a range from that to the $10 decks).
Moral of the story. Many people think legacy is awesome. Money should not keep people out of the format, even if it is needed for tier 1 decks. You can find a legacy playable* deck that is your play style and that is in your budget.
*(not tier 1 or 1.5, I don't mean win a GP competitive, but you would win many games at a GP and will do well at Your LGS competitive)
Janky decks can always beat a tier 1 deck if the tier deck is not prepared for jank
Ashiok F'd up people and one time a janky Kiora in legacy testing proved daunting.
That's the beauty of legacy. All it takes is some creativity of searching for synergies.
Plus who doesn't like making a dream play in a non EDh/non casual format.
I'm telling you folks: NOTION THIEF the griseldraw!
Ashiok isn't lgcy Jank lol G Fab loves it in lgcy lol
Notion thieving grizzle is good.
Also good is brainstorm. You draw and they still have to put their hand into their library. :D
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2015, 08:20:23 PM
Ashiok isn't lgcy Jank lol G Fab loves it in lgcy lol
Makes people confused when it drops lol, but it's a $6 card right now and such a powerful one. I keep scooping it up
(Confirmed by Karla Ortiz ashiok is an it)
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 19, 2015, 08:53:13 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 19, 2015, 08:20:23 PM
Ashiok isn't lgcy Jank lol G Fab loves it in lgcy lol
Makes people confused when it drops lol, but it's a $6 card right now and such a powerful one. I keep scooping it up
(Confirmed by Karla Ortiz ashiok is an it)
Ashiok is my favorite walker ever I play a creature less body guard deck that basically protects me and ashioks you to death and it rules my play group hard core... I may actually think about make it legacy just to laugh at ppl bc no one expects it coming I'll post it to let you guys see it
Ashiok makes top decks SAD
I mean Ash is dope I've already said that but guys it's no Lili or Jace it's a 1-2 of max and it's not op at all it can be insane but at the same time it can be terrible