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Title: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Splicer on July 31, 2015, 05:23:11 PM
Why is {Imperial Seal} worth so much more than {Vampiric tutor}? Isn't {Vampiric Tutor} strictly better?
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: Splicer on July 31, 2015, 05:23:11 PM
Why is {Imperial Seal} worth so much more than {Vampiric tutor}? Isn't {Vampiric Tutor} strictly better?

Availability. Portal 3 Kingdoms was a super limited print run. But yes, vamp tutor is better.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Kaalia with haste on July 31, 2015, 05:43:36 PM
{dispel}

Makes imperial seal strictly better.


Totally kidding, as stated previously it's availability.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on July 31, 2015, 05:43:36 PM
{dispel}

Makes imperial seal strictly better.


Totally kidding, as stated previously it's availability.
That being said... The price difference is absurd and laughable. It's only legal in vintage and even at that as a 1 of in only a few decks. I can't imagine paying that much for one of these.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on July 31, 2015, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on July 31, 2015, 05:43:36 PM
{dispel}

Makes imperial seal strictly better.


Totally kidding, as stated previously it's availability.
That being said... The price difference is absurd and laughable. It's only legal in vintage and even at that as a 1 of in only a few decks. I can't imagine paying that much for one of these.
The EDH goodness though!
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: particle on July 31, 2015, 07:35:33 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: Splicer on July 31, 2015, 05:23:11 PM
Why is {Imperial Seal} worth so much more than {Vampiric tutor}? Isn't {Vampiric Tutor} strictly better?

Availability. Portal 3 Kingdoms was a super limited print run. But yes, vamp tutor is better.

Basically anything playable from portal three kingdoms is a collectors item.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Brawler_1337 on July 31, 2015, 08:08:31 PM
Quote from: particle on July 31, 2015, 07:35:33 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 05:27:14 PM
Quote from: Splicer on July 31, 2015, 05:23:11 PM
Why is {Imperial Seal} worth so much more than {Vampiric tutor}? Isn't {Vampiric Tutor} strictly better?

Availability. Portal 3 Kingdoms was a super limited print run. But yes, vamp tutor is better.

Basically anything playable from portal three kingdoms is a collectors item.
Yup. {Nature's Lore} is a buck at most. {Three Visits}? $20+. Same effect, same rarity, but Three Visits is P3K, so it's stupid expensive.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:29:27 PM
 {Capture of Jingzhou} Is another good example. VS  {Time Warp} 
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Brawler_1337 on July 31, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:29:27 PM
{Capture of Jingzhou} Is another good example. VS  {Time Warp}
Also {Ravages of War} vs. {Armageddon}.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Splicer on July 31, 2015, 11:30:44 PM
Cool. Thanks!
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: blackychan1 on August 01, 2015, 12:07:27 AM
I just watched a box of P3K sell for ~$6,500 about a week ago.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Falcon182 on August 01, 2015, 12:53:47 AM
Quote from: blackychan1 on August 01, 2015, 12:07:27 AM
I just watched a box of P3K sell for ~$6,500 about a week ago.

Fuuuuudge. Haha
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Kaylesh on August 01, 2015, 04:48:36 AM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on July 31, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:29:27 PM
{Capture of Jingzhou} Is another good example. VS  {Time Warp}
Also {Ravages of War} vs. {Armageddon}.
But, but that's reasonable. {Armageddon} doesn't have the reminder text....
/s

In all honesty, I'm in favor of banning any duplicate 3K cards for EDH. If you have the money to throw at it, you basically get two-offs of cards. And horsemanship.. Underpriced unblockable..
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: particle on August 01, 2015, 08:45:06 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 01, 2015, 04:48:36 AM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on July 31, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:29:27 PM
{Capture of Jingzhou} Is another good example. VS  {Time Warp}
Also {Ravages of War} vs. {Armageddon}.
But, but that's reasonable. {Armageddon} doesn't have the reminder text....
/s

In all honesty, I'm in favor of banning any duplicate 3K cards for EDH. If you have the money to throw at it, you basically get two-offs of cards. And horsemanship.. Underpriced unblockable..

The only horsemanship card I care about (though not asking for banning) is {sun Quan, lord of wu}.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Rass on August 01, 2015, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 01, 2015, 04:48:36 AM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on July 31, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:29:27 PM
{Capture of Jingzhou} Is another good example. VS  {Time Warp}
Also {Ravages of War} vs. {Armageddon}.
But, but that's reasonable. {Armageddon} doesn't have the reminder text....
/s

In all honesty, I'm in favor of banning any duplicate 3K cards for EDH. If you have the money to throw at it, you basically get two-offs of cards. And horsemanship.. Underpriced unblockable..

Lol that's some of basic magic. You have more money you get the advantages.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Kaylesh on August 02, 2015, 01:16:48 PM
Quote from: Rass on August 01, 2015, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 01, 2015, 04:48:36 AM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on July 31, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:29:27 PM
{Capture of Jingzhou} Is another good example. VS  {Time Warp}
Also {Ravages of War} vs. {Armageddon}.
But, but that's reasonable. {Armageddon} doesn't have the reminder text....
/s

In all honesty, I'm in favor of banning any duplicate 3K cards for EDH. If you have the money to throw at it, you basically get two-offs of cards. And horsemanship.. Underpriced unblockable..

Lol that's some of basic magic. You have more money you get the advantages.
True. So true.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Falcon182 on August 02, 2015, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 02, 2015, 01:16:48 PM
Quote from: Rass on August 01, 2015, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 01, 2015, 04:48:36 AM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on July 31, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:29:27 PM
{Capture of Jingzhou} Is another good example. VS  {Time Warp}
Also {Ravages of War} vs. {Armageddon}.
But, but that's reasonable. {Armageddon} doesn't have the reminder text....
/s

In all honesty, I'm in favor of banning any duplicate 3K cards for EDH. If you have the money to throw at it, you basically get two-offs of cards. And horsemanship.. Underpriced unblockable..

Lol that's some of basic magic. You have more money you get the advantages.
True. So true.

I kinda don't agree. Pretty much only in EDH and Vintage is there a $$ = win equivalent.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on August 03, 2015, 12:16:07 AM
Quote from: Falcon182 on August 02, 2015, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 02, 2015, 01:16:48 PM
Quote from: Rass on August 01, 2015, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 01, 2015, 04:48:36 AM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on July 31, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:29:27 PM
{Capture of Jingzhou} Is another good example. VS  {Time Warp}
Also {Ravages of War} vs. {Armageddon}.
But, but that's reasonable. {Armageddon} doesn't have the reminder text....
/s

In all honesty, I'm in favor of banning any duplicate 3K cards for EDH. If you have the money to throw at it, you basically get two-offs of cards. And horsemanship.. Underpriced unblockable..

Lol that's some of basic magic. You have more money you get the advantages.
True. So true.

I kinda don't agree. Pretty much only in EDH and Vintage is there a $$ = win equivalent.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. I think this statement is true for every format.
Title: Re: Vampiric Tutor vs Imperial Seal
Post by: Falcon182 on August 03, 2015, 12:54:29 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on August 03, 2015, 12:16:07 AM
Quote from: Falcon182 on August 02, 2015, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 02, 2015, 01:16:48 PM
Quote from: Rass on August 01, 2015, 09:00:36 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 01, 2015, 04:48:36 AM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on July 31, 2015, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on July 31, 2015, 10:29:27 PM
{Capture of Jingzhou} Is another good example. VS  {Time Warp}
Also {Ravages of War} vs. {Armageddon}.
But, but that's reasonable. {Armageddon} doesn't have the reminder text....
/s

In all honesty, I'm in favor of banning any duplicate 3K cards for EDH. If you have the money to throw at it, you basically get two-offs of cards. And horsemanship.. Underpriced unblockable..

Lol that's some of basic magic. You have more money you get the advantages.
True. So true.

I kinda don't agree. Pretty much only in EDH and Vintage is there a $$ = win equivalent.
I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. I think this statement is true for every format.

I mean obviously you need to have enough to buy the relevant cards... But legacy, you don't need foil fetches or beta duals or judge promo wastelands.... You can have the exact same deck as someone but their deck is worth $30,000 and yours is worth $3,000. There is no card for legacy that you can buy for any amount that is FoW 4-8 for your deck, but cards like that do exist for vintage and EDH.