I'm working on a little MtG research via Cockatrice. I started out entering my casuals for a database, then I figured I can use local play to pit them.
Then I decided to expand: I data-mined the preconstructed decks, and made a round 1 putting the decks of each block against one another. It's a huge list, I got 235 lines in the excel sheets for the match ups (including block names though).
So far the preliminaries are: the "standard" environment decks (Clash pack / event deck) feel really nice, and can be quite explosive, especially the phyrexian era infect decks.
The other: wizards hates on Tibalt. {tibalt, the fiendblooded} is not only a terrible walker, but his duel deck is the worst. Sorin beat him with mana screw vs mana flood & Tibalt on the board, but I kept discarding the stuff I needed and kept the lands, because random..
Haven't had round 2 yet, but it's bad, estimating dead last.
I'll keep you informed on my epitaph of geekiness.
This sounds epic!
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 30, 2015, 11:07:17 AM
This sounds epic!
Size of it is, indeed. And it's both fun to do, and good for piloting training. Like http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Reality_Fracture
I happen to know the deck, because I own it. But going in without knowing the decks that much, except for names, and going to play off that first hand is really nice. What do I tutor out of this list, what do I sideboard (in the case of Theme decks). Really good practice, though playing a dedicated deck vs real opponents would likely be better prep if you are gonna take a specific deck to a specific tourney.
So your actually playing out the matches playing as both opponents? Or your running a simulation based on the cards in the deck?
Quote from: particle on July 31, 2015, 08:51:55 AM
So your actually playing out the matches playing as both opponents? Or your running a simulation based on the cards in the deck?
I'm actually playing out the matches, playing both decks as good as I can.
With the intro decks and clash packs/theme packs, this seems to be working fine.
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 31, 2015, 10:53:59 AM
Quote from: particle on July 31, 2015, 08:51:55 AM
So your actually playing out the matches playing as both opponents? Or your running a simulation based on the cards in the deck?
I'm actually playing out the matches, playing both decks as good as I can.
With the intro decks and clash packs/theme packs, this seems to be working fine.
I can't do that, I always have a bias for a certain deck.
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on July 31, 2015, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 31, 2015, 10:53:59 AM
Quote from: particle on July 31, 2015, 08:51:55 AM
So your actually playing out the matches playing as both opponents? Or your running a simulation based on the cards in the deck?
I'm actually playing out the matches, playing both decks as good as I can.
With the intro decks and clash packs/theme packs, this seems to be working fine.
I can't do that, I always have a bias for a certain deck.
I had this case, can't recall the exact matchup, where I was actually disappointed in the outcome of a match :p
I try to be as fair as I can be. I'm sure favorites might appear on the way.
Especially since the opposite already happened: I loathe the Tibalt deck in the way that it's too random and lacks any power, and I don't see a wincon unless you can race Tibalt to ult. but by that time, you'll have usually lost.
Now that I'm thinking about a match:
M15 vs Origins clash pack. Went 2-1 for M15 on sick ramp. (Game three was a x=20 {genesis hydra} into {Hydra Broodmaster})
However, I really liked the pump of Origins more, and G1 it appeared to be quite overbearing. (M15 got nothing BUT ramp. Loads of mana but nothing to finish).
I play cockatrice so this is a really dumb question but how do you play a match with yourself and load two decks?
Quote from: particle on August 01, 2015, 12:09:08 AM
I play cockatrice so this is a really dumb question but how do you play a match with yourself and load two decks?
1:Disconnect from server.
2:Start local game, set players to 2.
3:That's how.
Quote from: Splicer on August 01, 2015, 03:51:11 AM
Quote from: particle on August 01, 2015, 12:09:08 AM
I play cockatrice so this is a really dumb question but how do you play a match with yourself and load two decks?
1:Disconnect from server.
2:Start local game, set players to 2.
3:That's how.
Local game can have up to 8 players. I haven't felt so desperate to build up 8 player EDH's yet, however.
Quote from: Splicer on August 01, 2015, 03:51:11 AM
Quote from: particle on August 01, 2015, 12:09:08 AM
I play cockatrice so this is a really dumb question but how do you play a match with yourself and load two decks?
1:Disconnect from server.
2:Start local game, set players to 2.
3:That's how.
Needs step 4. Profit!!!
Edit: and wow that was really easy. Dur
I do a project very similar to yours! I build pairs of decks at random (sets of 16 actually) and tournament them against each other. I like how you call it research and especially that phrase Epitaph of Geekiness. You might mean Epitome not epitaph, unless it kills you, then it can be epitaph, but epically clever either way.
But I have never done Cockatrice and I had no idea that one person could play two decks against each other on one computer. MTGO doesn't have that, does it? I am definitely going to have to check this out for my own epiphany of geekiness solitaire project. I have only done mine with paper and proxies. Thank You! ASM
Tx. And yeah, it's not supposed to kill me :p
Well, it's been a while. Personal live and jumping mind been working against the project.
I've been building and borrowing a couple of EDH decks to branch out into those, but for now I've finished a matchup for rd 2 for the duel decks. Eldrazi vs Zendikar has been included, and that was a quick 2-0 for the zendikari.
Games end quickly if you get three land drops in a turn with {Territorial Baloth} swinging into an open field.
The first round 2 game was Sorin vs Elspeth (vs Kiora). Tokens vs tokens. Due to an early stall and a {Vampire Lacerator}, Sorin was pretty much bled to death by his own minion.
A {mother of runes} from Elspeth protected the field from removal, while a stalemate developed. Sorin seemed to be able to get some mass in with {Phantom General} and a bunch of spirit tokens, but {Court Street Denizen} + {Captain of the Watch} created just too much of a tapdown, and Elspeth swung for the win.