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Title: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Forbidyourways on July 22, 2015, 09:57:42 AM

Green/Black Elves

61 cards, 15 sideboard


3 {Gilt-Leaf Palace}
3 {Swamp}
3 {Overgrown Tomb}
3 {Cavern of Souls}
2 {Verdant Catacombs}
5 {Forest}
1 {Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx}

20 lands


4 {Nettle Sentinel}
4 {Elvish Archdruid}
4 {Shaman of the Pack}
1 {Spellskite}
1 {Fauna Shaman}
4 {Llanowar Elves}
1 {Craterhoof Behemoth}
1 {Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen}
1 {Nath of the Gilt-Leaf}
4 {Elvish Visionary}
2 {Ezuri, Renegade Leader}
1 {Elvish Champion}
4 {Heritage Druid}
1 {Dryad Arbor}
1 {Scavenging Ooze}

34 creatures


2 {Chord of Calling}
3 {Collected Company}
2 {Summoner's Pact}

7 other spells


Sideboard

3 {Abrupt Decay}
1 {Choke}
2 {Golgari Charm}
3 {Inquisition of Kozilek}
1 {Reclamation Sage}
1 {Fracturing Gust}
3 {Beast Within}
1 {Spellskite}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 22, 2015, 02:05:35 PM
{Abrupt Decay}, at least in the sideboard. {Golgari Charm} could be some nice anti-wrath tech.
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Kaalia with haste on July 22, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 22, 2015, 02:05:35 PM
{Abrupt Decay}, at least in the sideboard. {Golgari Charm} could be some nice anti-wrath tech.
Doesn't stop wrath of god, stops supreme verdict but if it's only stopping half the wraths in the format it's not good enough. I'd agree if goblins turns out to be a legit thing because then we'd have a solid use for -1-1
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 22, 2015, 02:33:55 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on July 22, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 22, 2015, 02:05:35 PM
{Abrupt Decay}, at least in the sideboard. {Golgari Charm} could be some nice anti-wrath tech.
Doesn't stop wrath of god, stops supreme verdict but if it's only stopping half the wraths in the format it's not good enough. I'd agree if goblins turns out to be a legit thing because then we'd have a solid use for -1-1

Touché... Didn't think of that.
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Codester1991 on July 22, 2015, 06:13:23 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 22, 2015, 02:33:55 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on July 22, 2015, 02:09:26 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 22, 2015, 02:05:35 PM
{Abrupt Decay}, at least in the sideboard. {Golgari Charm} could be some nice anti-wrath tech.
Doesn't stop wrath of god, stops supreme verdict but if it's only stopping half the wraths in the format it's not good enough. I'd agree if goblins turns out to be a legit thing because then we'd have a solid use for -1-1

Touché... Didn't think of that.

Does regenerate work with anger of the gods?
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 22, 2015, 06:16:25 PM
It does. As it wouldn't die so the exile doesn't take place. Is there some weird way to stack the triggers so it does work?

Reference: {Anger of the Gods}
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Codester1991 on July 22, 2015, 06:19:45 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 22, 2015, 06:16:25 PM
It does. As it wouldn't die so the exile doesn't take place. Is there some weird way to stack the triggers so it does work?

Reference: {Anger of the Gods}

No clue. But Anger of the gods is a more largely used form of mass removal than any of the wraths at this moment so golgari charm could be a viable sideboard option.
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Mattao19 on July 22, 2015, 08:25:05 PM
G Charm saves from:

Verdict
{Pyroclasm}
{Anger of the gods}
{Lightning Bolt}
{Doom Blade}/{Go for the Throat}/Cut

Doesn't save from:
Path
Wrath (lol rhymes)

I'd say run a 1-2 of G Charm as it also hits random enchantments and can kill Delvers/Young Peezys
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 22, 2015, 11:08:17 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 22, 2015, 08:25:05 PM
G Charm saves from:

Verdict
{Pyroclasm}
{Anger of the gods}
{Lightning Bolt}
{Doom Blade}/{Go for the Throat}/Cut

Doesn't save from:
Path
Wrath (lol rhymes)

I'd say run a 1-2 of G Charm as it also hits random enchantments and can kill Delvers/Young Peezys

And the splinter twin combo
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 22, 2015, 11:09:17 PM
If pestermite is used
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Mattao19 on July 23, 2015, 01:36:40 AM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 22, 2015, 11:09:17 PM
If pestermite is used

Fogs Exarch too :P

Edit: Fogs not figs lol

Actually wait lol G Charm can just kill the twin ... Lol
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: InfinitiveDivinity on July 23, 2015, 02:24:45 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 23, 2015, 01:36:40 AM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 22, 2015, 11:09:17 PM
If pestermite is used

Figs Exarch too :P
Damn that's good actually
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 23, 2015, 08:10:56 PM
The problem with killing the splinter twin is that they can just make a million tokens in response. You would have to do it in response to them tapping the exarch/perstermite so it resolves before they can untap from the etb trigger. Not sure if that is better than just waiting for them to attack then say 'sorry, not today' and hope they dont have a counter spell.
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Mattao19 on July 23, 2015, 08:33:06 PM
How on earth would that not be better? Lol sure they get 1 more 1/4 or 1 more 2/1 flier lol but so? They have no more twin now they have to find one of their 3 other twins ......
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 23, 2015, 08:36:51 PM
Because by waiting for their attack phase they lose all their creatures (if its pestermite) as well as lose splinter twin. Thats why it might not be better. Either way though, you're screwed if they have a counterspell. Maybe abrupt decay on their creature might be the best solution for that matchup.
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Forbidyourways on July 28, 2015, 04:35:55 PM
I've been play testing more and I've updated some stuff. It's a lot of fun. I've won at least 10 games now with  {Shaman of the Pack} Just so good.
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Mattao19 on July 29, 2015, 09:23:48 AM
I agree that Shaman is good, but a 4 of seems like too many to me, especially when you have CoCo and Chord to get it
Title: Re: Green/Black Elves
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on July 29, 2015, 02:55:25 PM
Shaman of the pack is my favourite card from origins and it isnt even close. Im testing it as a one-of in my legacy elves list, and at the moment it does what it is supposed to do perfectly. I dont see why you would run any less then a playset in a modern deck. Having 3 elves in play, then casting one, then chording for one. Thats an insane amount of damage right there without even attacking yet.