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Title: Need some ideas..
Post by: JordanCirk on July 21, 2015, 11:27:47 AM
Hello! I'm interested in building a  {Multani, Maro-Sorcerer} "group huggy" style deck. I want it to build up people's hands, and be able to kill them in "one shot" with my commander. Any ideas on how this can be accomplished? Any thoughts are appreciated!

Side note: no ones been talking for a while! 😱
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: xStrayKnightx on July 21, 2015, 11:50:56 AM
Might seem like a no-brainer, but having global draw engines is a good call. {Howling Mine}, {Temple Bell}, etc.
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 21, 2015, 12:36:21 PM
{Otherworld Atlas}, {Rites of Flourishing}.

{Psychosis Crawler} could be good.

{Library of Leng}, {Reliquary Tower}, {Spellbook}, {Venser's Journal} to keep your cards.

{Black Vice} to punish them for theirs.
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: JordanCirk on July 21, 2015, 02:36:11 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 21, 2015, 12:36:21 PM
{Otherworld Atlas}, {Rites of Flourishing}.

{Psychosis Crawler} could be good.

{Library of Leng}, {Reliquary Tower}, {Spellbook}, {Venser's Journal} to keep your cards.

{Black Vice} to punish them for theirs.
Thanks!
Yeah I also need some advice as to what I can do to push through damage. So far I've thought of  {Thunderfoot Baloth} and  {Nylea, God of the Hunt} For trample, any other ideas?
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 21, 2015, 02:42:15 PM
That shroud really hurts...you can throw down a {Lure}, {Noble Quarry}, {Golgari Decoy}, I'm sure there's more, to sponge up all the blocks and let your commander through.

Commander damage is 21. If you can keep three people at 7 that's one shot power. However once you kill someone your commander's p/t goes down... 
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: JordanCirk on July 21, 2015, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 21, 2015, 02:42:15 PM
That shroud really hurts...you can throw down a {Lure}, {Noble Quarry}, {Golgari Decoy}, I'm sure there's more, to sponge up all the blocks and let your commander through.

Commander damage is 21. If you can keep three people at 7 that's one shot power. However once you kill someone your commander's p/t goes down...
That's why I feel trample is a better option
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: blackychan1 on July 21, 2015, 04:39:32 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on July 21, 2015, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 21, 2015, 02:42:15 PM
That shroud really hurts...you can throw down a {Lure}, {Noble Quarry}, {Golgari Decoy}, I'm sure there's more, to sponge up all the blocks and let your commander through.

Commander damage is 21. If you can keep three people at 7 that's one shot power. However once you kill someone your commander's p/t goes down...
That's why I feel trample is a better option
You have 99 cards to work with. Why not both options?
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: JordanCirk on July 21, 2015, 10:00:45 PM
Quote from: blackychan1 on July 21, 2015, 04:39:32 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on July 21, 2015, 04:07:11 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on July 21, 2015, 02:42:15 PM
That shroud really hurts...you can throw down a {Lure}, {Noble Quarry}, {Golgari Decoy}, I'm sure there's more, to sponge up all the blocks and let your commander through.

Commander damage is 21. If you can keep three people at 7 that's one shot power. However once you kill someone your commander's p/t goes down...
That's why I feel trample is a better option
You have 99 cards to work with. Why not both options?
Isn't there better creatures than that? Or am I mistaken.. Isn't there an elf one that's 2 mana?
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: imFourth of Phils on July 21, 2015, 11:22:13 PM
was wondering if you could give it haste so you could kill an opponent upon cast, specially in multi commander
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: Kaylesh on July 22, 2015, 04:41:21 AM
 {Surrak, the Hunt Caller} is a nice one.
Or  {Concordant Crossroads} (But that's all creatures).
On the lure-creatures, there is  {Satyr Piper},  {Taunting Elf}.
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: JordanCirk on July 22, 2015, 10:21:19 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 22, 2015, 04:41:21 AM
{Surrak, the Hunt Caller} is a nice one.
Or  {Concordant Crossroads} (But that's all creatures).
On the lure-creatures, there is  {Satyr Piper},  {Taunting Elf}.
Thank you! All very helpful 😁
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: Bop on July 22, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
Surrak doesn't work for giving him haste because shroud. {Elvish Bard} gets him through though.
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: mickeven on July 22, 2015, 06:39:32 PM
if you put all these creatures that force to be blocked, i'd put some  {Venom},  {Basilisk Collar},  {Bow of Nylea} to wipe boards
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: JordanCirk on July 22, 2015, 06:51:33 PM
Quote from: Bop on July 22, 2015, 06:13:57 PM
Surrak doesn't work for giving him haste because shroud. {Elvish Bard} gets him through though.
Nice catch! Thanks.
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: JordanCirk on July 22, 2015, 06:52:09 PM
Quote from: mickeven on July 22, 2015, 06:39:32 PM
if you put all these creatures that force to be blocked, i'd put some  {Venom},  {Basilisk Collar},  {Bow of Nylea} to wipe boards
Probably would put the collar and bow in since they're reusable/always in effect. Thank you for the advice.
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: JordanCirk on July 22, 2015, 06:53:38 PM
Now I'm looking for some more "group huggy" type green/colorless cards. Also more cards that let everyone draw
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: mickeven on July 22, 2015, 06:57:02 PM
I like {Venom} because unlike Deathtouch, it doesnt require damage to be dealt for those creatures to die. A 0/1 with Venom can wipe an entire inifite board of creatures while a 4/4 with Deathtouch can only kill 4 creatures.
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: LinkCelestrial on July 22, 2015, 06:59:32 PM
There's parley stuff.

{Selvala's Charge}, {Selvala's Enforcer}.

You can also use {Arbor Elf}, {Voyaging Satyr} and {Spectral Searchlight} to give away mana.
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: JordanCirk on July 22, 2015, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: mickeven on July 22, 2015, 06:57:02 PM
I like {Venom} because unlike Deathtouch, it doesnt require damage to be dealt for those creatures to die. A 0/1 with Venom can wipe an entire inifite board of creatures while a 4/4 with Deathtouch can only kill 4 creatures.
I guess I didn't realism that clause with venom. Interesting
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: Kaylesh on July 22, 2015, 09:15:48 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on July 22, 2015, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: mickeven on July 22, 2015, 06:57:02 PM
I like {Venom} because unlike Deathtouch, it doesnt require damage to be dealt for those creatures to die. A 0/1 with Venom can wipe an entire inifite board of creatures while a 4/4 with Deathtouch can only kill 4 creatures.
I guess I didn't realism that clause with venom. Interesting
There is also  {Cockatrice} for a creature with venom, than you just need {lure}.
Just realized {tempting licid} can be used, that way you can just remove it in response to blockers being declared and use it on the next creature. (In case of alpha strike).
For wipes, there's also  {Engulfing Slagwurm}.
Since that triggers on blocking, he just sits there giving you the life. So nice to give him trample to kill off those last players, when you can no longer get Muro to 21.
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: JordanCirk on July 23, 2015, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 22, 2015, 09:15:48 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on July 22, 2015, 09:01:40 PM
Quote from: mickeven on July 22, 2015, 06:57:02 PM
I like {Venom} because unlike Deathtouch, it doesnt require damage to be dealt for those creatures to die. A 0/1 with Venom can wipe an entire inifite board of creatures while a 4/4 with Deathtouch can only kill 4 creatures.
I guess I didn't realism that clause with venom. Interesting
There is also  {Cockatrice} for a creature with venom, than you just need {lure}.
Just realized {tempting licid} can be used, that way you can just remove it in response to blockers being declared and use it on the next creature. (In case of alpha strike).
For wipes, there's also  {Engulfing Slagwurm}.
Since that triggers on blocking, he just sits there giving you the life. So nice to give him trample to kill off those last players, when you can no longer get Muro to 21.
Slagwurm seems interesting... I was looking last night at green enchantments and there are some crazy cool ones! A side-enchantress theme would be cool too
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on July 24, 2015, 11:41:59 AM
 {Nylea, God of the Hunt} is multani's friend. Not to mention  {Pathbreaker Wurm} (soulbond bypasses shroud) that said,  {Nightshade Peddler}, {Geist Trappers}, and {Wolfir Silverheart} deserve a consideration aswell.  {Enshrined Memories} to dig and beef multani,  {Forgotten Ancient} (again, bypasses shroud, everybody forgets the ancient),   {Greater Good}, {harmonize},  {Momentous Fall}, {Life's Legacy}, {Lifeblood Hydra} (which, by the way, is the best {berserk} target I have ever seen EVER!) then just add green beef of your preference (there's no shortage of big creatures in this colour, I mean c'mon) and your group huggy {otherworldly atlas}, {temple bell}, {howling mine}, {font of mythos} you get the idea. Massiveness, trample and card draw. A winning combination.
Title: Re: Need some ideas..
Post by: JordanCirk on July 24, 2015, 12:23:04 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on July 24, 2015, 11:41:59 AM
{Nylea, God of the Hunt} is multani's friend. Not to mention  {Pathbreaker Wurm} (soulbond bypasses shroud) that said,  {Nightshade Peddler}, {Geist Trappers}, and {Wolfir Silverheart} deserve a consideration aswell.  {Enshrined Memories} to dig and beef multani,  {Forgotten Ancient} (again, bypasses shroud, everybody forgets the ancient),   {Greater Good}, {harmonize},  {Momentous Fall}, {Life's Legacy}, {Lifeblood Hydra} (which, by the way, is the best {berserk} target I have ever seen EVER!) then just add green beef of your preference (there's no shortage of big creatures in this colour, I mean c'mon) and your group huggy {otherworldly atlas}, {temple bell}, {howling mine}, {font of mythos} you get the idea. Massiveness, trample and card draw. A winning combination.
Enshrined memories seems very interesting! Thank you for all the help! Really does help a lot.