Probably a lot of you know this but whatever...
I have a friend who uses this op deck {Kobolds of Kher Keep}+ {Cloudstone Curio}+ {Grapeshot}/ {Tendrils of Agony}
His deck has a ton of card draw and effects like "damage can't be prevented" and also has all the 12 kobolds in mtg
Kobolds tribal!!
I run this and I've thought of adding {Mana Echoes}. Mine also adds {Impact Tremors} and {Altar of the Brood}.
I've also told this to a few people now, but I'll repost it here. This deck is a glass cannon to the maximum. If you lose {Cloudstone Curio} or have a {Grapeshot} countered you normally don't come back from that since they know your ploys now.
If they counter your {grapeshot}, the infinite copies won't be.
They'd have to {stifle} the storm trigger to live, but that's a less common occurrence.
And there's {red elemental blast} and co.
I never meant to come across as it being rare to happen. I was just saying that there normally isn't a good backup if your {Cloudstone Curio} gets {Surgical Extraction}ed or simply countered. It relying on a very easy to remove card or some 0/1's makes it fragile. I've played it enough to get T2 wins and such, but also know its weaknesses.
I will say, playing it in a primarily blue shell isn't a bad idea. Use {Trinket Mage} to get the {Altar of the Brood}, use some draw, and throw in some counters and you shouldn't really need to throw in red. Could work real well with just blue and an {Isochron Scepter} for the {Grapeshot} maybe? I guess that's a little risky. Maybe keep the red in.
Quote from: Deebiia on June 28, 2015, 04:45:15 AM
I never meant to come across as it being rare to happen. I was just saying that there normally isn't a good backup if your {Cloudstone Curio} gets {Surgical Extraction}ed or simply countered. It relying on a very easy to remove card or some 0/1's makes it fragile. I've played it enough to get T2 wins and such, but also know its weaknesses.
I will say, playing it in a primarily blue shell isn't a bad idea. Use {Trinket Mage} to get the {Altar of the Brood}, use some draw, and throw in some counters and you shouldn't really need to throw in red. Could work real well with just blue and an {Isochron Scepter} for the {Grapeshot} maybe? I guess that's a little risky. Maybe keep the red in.
You are 100% correct, his deck has also tutors like {Demonic Tutor} to search all his combo pieces, he does lose to cards like {Golgari Charm} and surgical, after that is gg
The hardest card for this kind of deck to get around is {Counterflux} overloaded ... Is there any way to get around it?
Quote from: MommaB on June 28, 2015, 09:04:17 PM
The hardest card for this kind of deck to get around is {Counterflux} overloaded ... Is there any way to get around it?
That's why I prefer using the {Altar of the Brood} win con. It's quick and effective. No storm counter needed.