1 {Forest}
1 {Glacial Chasm}
4 {Grove of the Burnwillows}
3 {Maze of Ith}
1 {Misty Rainforest}
4 {Rishadan Port}
2 {Taiga}
4 {Thespian's Stage}
2 {Tranquil Thicket}
1 {Verdant Catacombs}
4 {Wasteland}
1 {Windswept Heath}
1 {Wooded Foothills}
1 {Karakas}
1 {The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale}
3 {Dark Depths}
34 Lands
4 {Mox Diamond}
4 {Exploration}
2 {Manabond}
10 Artifacts/Enchantments
4 {Crop Rotation}
4 {Punishing Fire}
4 {Gamble}
4 {Life from the Loam}
16 Sorceries
Sideboard
4 {Sphere of Resistance}
2 {Trinisphere}
2 {Choke}
4 {Krosan Grip}
1 {Bojuka Bog}
1 {Boseiju, Who Shelters All}
1 {Dark Depths}
Ah if only I had the funds for this!!
So how does this work? Is it just flood lands onto the battlefield and removing ice counters until you win with the 20/20 token? Its just strange for me to wrap my head around
Kinda but not quite.
{Dark Depths} + {Thespians Stage} + {2} = the 20/20 at instant speed that's the main win con.
The deck also aims to "lock out" the opponent with {Life from the Loam} {Rishadan Port} and {Wasteland}
{Crop Rotation} helps find pieces for various matchups. Example any creature deck {Tabernacle at Pendril Vale} and {Maze of Ith} will win you the game as you just hurt their own resources until either they scoop or you get Merit Lage!
It's a combo control deck that feasts on greedy manabases and creature decks!!
I know! But fair matchups are good plus they have to do it via omniscience otherwise I can (hopefully) get Karakas out through crop rotation or from show and telling it lol
Thanks!! That sounds really cool and intriguing!
Quote from: Kyrosis on June 23, 2015, 12:17:29 AM
Thanks!! That sounds really cool and intriguing!
But expensive :(
Answer to blood moon?
Krosan grip SB and other than that pray you don't play against it lol
Why not one crucible of worlds?
Quote from: Millionlittlee on June 23, 2015, 07:05:03 AM
Why not one crucible of worlds?
You would have to splash blue for at least Academy Ruins at that point, and then you're probably also playing {Intuition}.
Is {Vampire Hexmage} just not used or does it not really help at all?
Quote from: NovusOrbis on June 23, 2015, 03:14:33 PM
Is {Vampire Hexmage} just not used or does it not really help at all?
Different deck I think hex is dbl black which is almost impossible in here
You'd use {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}. But you're right, that's a different deck.
Quote from: NovusOrbis on June 23, 2015, 03:14:33 PM
Is {Vampire Hexmage} just not used or does it not really help at all?
The depths/stage combo is easier to setup in the deck than hexmage would be. The vampire would give some gas against other decks but would be redundant and dilute the strategy of lands.
P.S. As a miracles player this matchup is rather annoying >:(
P.S.S but no where near as annoying as 12 post
Miracles is favored vs lands.
Counter a cpl key loams and set up counter top to have terminus at the ready
It's a long ass grindy game but miracles is favored imo
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 26, 2015, 10:53:27 AM
Miracles is favored vs lands.
Counter a cpl key loams and set up counter top to have terminus at the ready
It's a long ass grindy game but miracles is favored imo
I am a miracles player and in my experience it is not an easy match up at all. Its certainly not unwinnable but its a lot closer to 50/50 than people seem to think.
Thing is is that miracles is favored Game 1 post board Lands can side in spheres and trinis but Miracles always has that instant speed terminus :'(
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 26, 2015, 10:53:27 AM
Miracles is favored vs lands.
Counter a cpl key loams and set up counter top to have terminus at the ready
It's a long ass grindy game but miracles is favored imo
I agree miracles is favored but this is one of the most grindy match ups. Neither decks seems to do anything against the other for s long time.
Agreed lol my opponent eot entreated for 3 (tapped out) and I crop rotated for glacial chasm. I was already at about 60 life bc of him swordsing my Lage
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 28, 2015, 11:39:19 AM
Agreed lol my opponent eot entreated for 3 (tapped out) and I crop rotated for glacial chasm. I was already at about 60 life bc of him swordsing my Lage
Seems to give you plenty of time to Lage again. And once you have {glacial chasm} out, you could even sac at upkeep, then dredge and play again, for an "upkeep cost" of one land. (Since you have to sac a land once it hits, you can cycle upkeep - loam, am I right?)
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 28, 2015, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 28, 2015, 11:39:19 AM
Agreed lol my opponent eot entreated for 3 (tapped out) and I crop rotated for glacial chasm. I was already at about 60 life bc of him swordsing my Lage
Seems to give you plenty of time to Lage again. And once you have {glacial chasm} out, you could even sac at upkeep, then dredge and play again, for an "upkeep cost" of one land. (Since you have to sac a land once it hits, you can cycle upkeep - loam, am I right?)
Ya but he had counter top lock and kept a 2 on top I took him awhile but he got there lol
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 28, 2015, 12:53:22 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 28, 2015, 12:05:35 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 28, 2015, 11:39:19 AM
Agreed lol my opponent eot entreated for 3 (tapped out) and I crop rotated for glacial chasm. I was already at about 60 life bc of him swordsing my Lage
Seems to give you plenty of time to Lage again. And once you have {glacial chasm} out, you could even sac at upkeep, then dredge and play again, for an "upkeep cost" of one land. (Since you have to sac a land once it hits, you can cycle upkeep - loam, am I right?)
Ya but he had counter top lock and kept a 2 on top I took him awhile but he got there lol
Ok, that doesn't help.
That's why with lands it is always a race game 1 then slow and go to time.
Paper all the way
I wish paper but sadly only on untap :(
Anything to remove a pw? I got lili on the board vs a guy on untap and it was over after I fow'd his loam
Only seems like punishing fire is only pw pain option
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 29, 2015, 02:45:50 AM
Only seems like punishing fire is only pw pain option
I'd say that or a sticking Marit Lage in a pinch.
(Say a guy just got ready to ult {Vraska the Unseen})
Ya Lands can't deal with PWs one of the decks weaknesses but it's not worth adding anything bc PWs aren't really played too often.
{Punishing Fire} and making a 20/20 on your end step are fine methods of dealing with planeswalkers. The lists running {Intuition} also have things like {Engineered Explosives}.
Pssh deathrite your punishing fire and wasteland your depths
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 29, 2015, 11:08:43 AM
Pssh deathrite your punishing fire and wasteland your depths
Life from the loan > wasteland
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 29, 2015, 11:08:43 AM
Pssh deathrite your punishing fire and wasteland your depths
You can come up with as many dream scenarios as you want to support your argument, that does not invalidate a deck that you don't play.
Not trying to invalidate the deck, just curious about its strengths and weaknesses, especially vs the deck I play.
I think those are good things to know, being new the format, you don't know every card in the format nor decks and what they usually play.
If this deck has X pieces removed/countered (punishing fire/dark depths/loam/waste) it can essentially be a scoop
Otherwise I end up learning about this deck on the tournament floor
Letting my opponent loam once as a whiff, then FoW his second was huge. And it seems this is becoming the popular deck.
Also if someone needs a tabernacle one just became available in my area, not sure if cash only for it tho
On Muggy's note, I'm assuming {Sowing Salts} is too much mana for Legacy? Or is it viable sideboard material for facing this deck?
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 29, 2015, 03:11:13 PM
On Muggy's note, I'm assuming {Sowing Salts} is too much mana for Legacy? Or is it viable sideboard material for facing this deck?
It'd be good if you could get to 4 mana.
Prob better off just having {surgical extraction} in the sideboard and your own {wasteland}
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 30, 2015, 04:53:09 AM
Prob better off just having {surgical extraction} in the sideboard and your own {wasteland}
Very good point. Thanks guys.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 30, 2015, 11:49:24 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 30, 2015, 04:53:09 AM
Prob better off just having {surgical extraction} in the sideboard and your own {wasteland}
Very good point. Thanks guys.
No one land extracted gets the job done though. Extraction on loam seems good. Or any real graveyard hate rocks this deck.
Quote from: Taysby on June 30, 2015, 07:19:02 PM
Have you considered the new ramp card from origins? GX revel top x, you get all lands into play.
Sorcery hurts it. Spell Mastery can be tough seems decent but Crop Rotation just seems better
I'm glad lands has gone aggro. The super duchy control lands was a P A I N IN THE Ace!!
Engineered explosives
Tabernacle
Smokestacks
4 wastes
4 ghost quarters
Good riddance!!!
I can deal with a 20/20 legendary token!
Quote from: Dstyle1 on July 01, 2015, 12:28:30 AM
I'm glad lands has gone aggro. The super duchy control lands was a P A I N IN THE Ace!!
Engineered explosives
Tabernacle
Smokestacks
4 wastes
4 ghost quarters
Good riddance!!!
I can deal with a 20/20 legendary token!
Can you deal with one every other turn? ;)
Yup I play DnT I can and can protect fliers all day.
Quote from: Dstyle1 on July 01, 2015, 01:17:00 AM
Yup I play DnT I can and can protect fliers all day.
Crop rotate for Tabernacle? GG? Lol jkjk but I think lands has a good DnT matchup
Mom flier 2 plains can cancel out tabernacle and token?
If you want to covkstrice it up let me know.
Quote from: Dstyle1 on July 01, 2015, 03:49:24 AM
Mom flier 2 plains can cancel out tabernacle and token?
If you want to covkstrice it up let me know.
I don't have cockatrice I have untap but I've been mostly playing Enchantress for Legacy bc I might build it :P but I'd be done to test Lands :P
Just realized {backlash} would kinda be GG right?
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 01, 2015, 01:22:40 PM
Just realized {backlash} would kinda be GG right?
Hahaha, nice.
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 01, 2015, 10:56:34 AM
Quote from: Dstyle1 on July 01, 2015, 03:49:24 AM
Mom flier 2 plains can cancel out tabernacle and token?
If you want to covkstrice it up let me know.
I don't have cockatrice I have untap but I've been mostly playing Enchantress for Legacy bc I might build it :P but I'd be done to test Lands :P
I have u tap up and running if you want to play test let me know