Thought this would be a cool idea, total jank but hell this is EDH not modern.
Commander:
{basandra, battle seraph}
Pillowfort stuff:(7)
{ghostly prison}
{humility}
{silent arbiter}
{meek stone}
{defense grid}
{norn's annex}
{sphere of safety}
Stax, tax, and other fun stuff: (9)
{stranglehold}
{stony silence}
{suppression field}
{trinisphere}
{smoke}
{rule of law}
{aura of silence}
{lightmine field}
{widespread panic}
Random mana rocks: (7)
{fire diamond}
{marble diamond}
{mind stone}
{sol ring}
{mana vault}
{Thran dynamo}
{boros signet}
Wraths: (9)
{wrath of god}
{day of judgment}
{blasphemous act}
{terminus}
{hallowed burial}
{Armageddon}
{final judgment}
{anger of the gods}
{pyroclasm}
Spot removal: (4)
{swords to plowshares}
{path to exile}
{lightning bolt}
{flame slash}
Ways to win: (6)
{serra ascendant}
{assemble the legion}
{akroma, angel of wrath}
{akroma, angel of fury}
{Heliod, god of the sun}
{elspeth, sun's champion}
Lands: (40)
{sacred foundry}
{temple of triumph}
{battlefield forge}
{clifftop retreat}
{wind-scarred crag}
{boros guildgate}
{boros garrison}
{strip mine}
16 {plains}
16 {mountain}
Need more card ideas. Any help?
{Archangel of thune} maybe
I feel like Serra ascendant is good but not really a good win condition because it isn't nearly as resilient as the rest of your threats such as Heliod or elspeth. It seems like you should replace it. Maybe {ajani vengeant}?
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 08:36:43 AM
I feel like Serra ascendant is good but not really a good win condition because it isn't nearly as resilient as the rest of your threats such as Heliod or elspeth. It seems like you should replace it. Maybe {ajani vengeant}?
Yea it definitely isn't the best win condition. I didn't know where else to put it though, and it's too powerful to not include
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 18, 2015, 08:37:55 AM
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 08:36:43 AM
I feel like Serra ascendant is good but not really a good win condition because it isn't nearly as resilient as the rest of your threats such as Heliod or elspeth. It seems like you should replace it. Maybe {ajani vengeant}?
Yea it definitely isn't the best win condition. I didn't know where else to put it though, and it's too powerful to not include
Is it really too powerful not to include? I see a very very good offensive creature in a stax deck. Doesn't seem like it's too necessary.
I was gonna suggest {wing shards} but then I realized you're playing basandra lol. Also do you know how the prison effects work with basandras ability? Do they have to pay the mana if able?
{Pyrohemia} + {Humility}
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 08:45:17 AM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 18, 2015, 08:37:55 AM
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 08:36:43 AM
I feel like Serra ascendant is good but not really a good win condition because it isn't nearly as resilient as the rest of your threats such as Heliod or elspeth. It seems like you should replace it. Maybe {ajani vengeant}?
Yea it definitely isn't the best win condition. I didn't know where else to put it though, and it's too powerful to not include
Is it really too powerful not to include? I see a very very good offensive creature in a stax deck. Doesn't seem like it's too necessary.
I was gonna suggest {wing shards} but then I realized you're playing basandra lol. Also do you know how the prison effects work with basandras ability? Do they have to pay the mana if able?
Yea I'm pretty sure you do. I was on judge chat last night in that's what they told me.
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 18, 2015, 11:07:29 AM
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 08:45:17 AM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 18, 2015, 08:37:55 AM
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 08:36:43 AM
I feel like Serra ascendant is good but not really a good win condition because it isn't nearly as resilient as the rest of your threats such as Heliod or elspeth. It seems like you should replace it. Maybe {ajani vengeant}?
Yea it definitely isn't the best win condition. I didn't know where else to put it though, and it's too powerful to not include
Is it really too powerful not to include? I see a very very good offensive creature in a stax deck. Doesn't seem like it's too necessary.
I was gonna suggest {wing shards} but then I realized you're playing basandra lol. Also do you know how the prison effects work with basandras ability? Do they have to pay the mana if able?
Yea I'm pretty sure you do. I was on judge chat last night in that's what they told me.
I could be wrong... But couldn't someone just use up all their mana before attacks and then they wouldn't have to attack you...? Since now they are unable to pay for the forts?
The forts must be paid for regardless of the availability of mana.
Is pyroclasm good in edh? I would think it to be ineffective in this format unless someone is running tokens and if they are running tokens then it is a good match up for you anyway.
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 18, 2015, 11:07:29 AM
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 08:45:17 AM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 18, 2015, 08:37:55 AM
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 08:36:43 AM
I feel like Serra ascendant is good but not really a good win condition because it isn't nearly as resilient as the rest of your threats such as Heliod or elspeth. It seems like you should replace it. Maybe {ajani vengeant}?
Yea it definitely isn't the best win condition. I didn't know where else to put it though, and it's too powerful to not include
Is it really too powerful not to include? I see a very very good offensive creature in a stax deck. Doesn't seem like it's too necessary.
I was gonna suggest {wing shards} but then I realized you're playing basandra lol. Also do you know how the prison effects work with basandras ability? Do they have to pay the mana if able?
Yea I'm pretty sure you do. I was on judge chat last night in that's what they told me.
Judge chat?
I think he means the combination between Bassandra and the forts. You are never forced to pay costs to enable attacks. However, since EDH, if your other opponents don't require taxes, you have to attack one of them.
And remember Bassandra only blocks spells, not abilities.
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 18, 2015, 02:04:02 PM
I think he means the combination between Bassandra and the forts. You are never forced to pay costs to enable attacks. However, since EDH, if your other opponents don't require taxes, you have to attack one of them.
And remember Bassandra only blocks spells, not abilities.
So if I'm reading this correctly, in a 1v1 when you have a fort out they don't have to attack when you use bassandra's ability on one of their creatures?
Besides all this, I think {ajani vengeant} would be really good in this deck.
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 02:16:10 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 18, 2015, 02:04:02 PM
I think he means the combination between Bassandra and the forts. You are never forced to pay costs to enable attacks. However, since EDH, if your other opponents don't require taxes, you have to attack one of them.
And remember Bassandra only blocks spells, not abilities.
So if I'm reading this correctly, in a 1v1 when you have a fort out they don't have to attack when you use bassandra's ability on one of their creatures?
Besides all this, I think {ajani vengeant} would be really good in this deck.
They have to attack, but they have to pay if they can, granted they can float mana pre combat..
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 18, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 02:16:10 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 18, 2015, 02:04:02 PM
I think he means the combination between Bassandra and the forts. You are never forced to pay costs to enable attacks. However, since EDH, if your other opponents don't require taxes, you have to attack one of them.
And remember Bassandra only blocks spells, not abilities.
So if I'm reading this correctly, in a 1v1 when you have a fort out they don't have to attack when you use bassandra's ability on one of their creatures?
Besides all this, I think {ajani vengeant} would be really good in this deck.
They have to attack, but they have to pay if they can, granted they can float mana pre combat..
From the card rulings:
If, during a player's declare attackers step, a creature is tapped, is affected by a spell or ability that says it can't attack, or hasn't been under that player's control continuously since the turn began (and doesn't have haste), then it doesn't attack. If there's a cost associated with having a creature attack, the player isn't forced to pay that cost, so it doesn't have to attack in that case either.
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 18, 2015, 03:57:21 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 18, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 02:16:10 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 18, 2015, 02:04:02 PM
I think he means the combination between Bassandra and the forts. You are never forced to pay costs to enable attacks. However, since EDH, if your other opponents don't require taxes, you have to attack one of them.
And remember Bassandra only blocks spells, not abilities.
So if I'm reading this correctly, in a 1v1 when you have a fort out they don't have to attack when you use bassandra's ability on one of their creatures?
Besides all this, I think {ajani vengeant} would be really good in this deck.
They have to attack, but they have to pay if they can, granted they can float mana pre combat..
From the card rulings:
If, during a player's declare attackers step, a creature is tapped, is affected by a spell or ability that says it can't attack, or hasn't been under that player's control continuously since the turn began (and doesn't have haste), then it doesn't attack. If there's a cost associated with having a creature attack, the player isn't forced to pay that cost, so it doesn't have to attack in that case either.
The judges have betrayed me
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 18, 2015, 07:14:25 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 18, 2015, 03:57:21 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 18, 2015, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: Ekann1 on June 18, 2015, 02:16:10 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 18, 2015, 02:04:02 PM
I think he means the combination between Bassandra and the forts. You are never forced to pay costs to enable attacks. However, since EDH, if your other opponents don't require taxes, you have to attack one of them.
And remember Bassandra only blocks spells, not abilities.
So if I'm reading this correctly, in a 1v1 when you have a fort out they don't have to attack when you use bassandra's ability on one of their creatures?
Besides all this, I think {ajani vengeant} would be really good in this deck.
They have to attack, but they have to pay if they can, granted they can float mana pre combat..
From the card rulings:
If, during a player's declare attackers step, a creature is tapped, is affected by a spell or ability that says it can't attack, or hasn't been under that player's control continuously since the turn began (and doesn't have haste), then it doesn't attack. If there's a cost associated with having a creature attack, the player isn't forced to pay that cost, so it doesn't have to attack in that case either.
The judges have betrayed me
Well, kinda depends on what exactly they said.
The way I read it, if there is a way the creature can attack, it has to, even if not you. You could send creatures from opponent A into opponent B's amazing defenses even while you have the forts.
In multiplayer, sure.
But the conversation was 1v1.
{Aurelia, the War Leader} can really do some work as a finisher.
I would think a man-land or two to get hits in under {humility}
Quote from: Dstyle1 on June 28, 2015, 11:52:52 PM
I would think a man-land or two to get hits in under {humility}
To my understanding, the land becomes a creature, is overlayed by humility, is a 1/1 with no abillities until end of turn, when it converts back. Am I wrong? I don't think this would get around {Humillity}.
Quote from: Splicer on June 28, 2015, 11:57:39 PM
Quote from: Dstyle1 on June 28, 2015, 11:52:52 PM
I would think a man-land or two to get hits in under {humility}
To my understanding, the land becomes a creature, is overlayed by humility, is a 1/1 with no abillities until end of turn, when it converts back. Am I wrong? I don't think this would get around {Humillity}.
When the lands animate, you'll have two abilities setting p/t to a specific value in layer 7B. These are applied in timestamp order.
613.6b (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=613.6b): A continuous effect generated by the resolution of a spell or ability receives a timestamp at the time it's created.
So, the activated land will get around humility if activated after humility hits the field.
This was a deck I believe back in the day. Humility, mainland, and every counter you could think of, and wrath effects as well.
{humility} + {nausea} = board wipe.
Or with a {pestilence} for wipe on a stick.
Edit: not in this deck though.