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Title: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: Lachrymology on April 23, 2012, 11:28:40 PM

Old First Turn Kill

75 cards, 15 sideboard


4 {City of Brass}
1 {Tolarian Academy}
1 {Strip Mine}

6 lands


4 {Elvish Spirit Guide}

4 creatures


1 {Sol Ring}
1 {Brainstorm}
3 {Impulse}
1 {Mana Crypt}
1 {Yawgmoth's Will}
1 {Lotus Petal}
3 {Voltaic Key}
1 {Tinker}
1 {Mind Twist}
1 {Windfall}
4 {Force of Will}
1 {Vampiric Tutor}
1 {Demonic Tutor}
1 {Imperial Seal}
1 {Capsize}
1 {Stroke of Genius}
1 {Wheel of Fortune}
1 {Ancestral Recall}
1 {Mox Pearl}
1 {Black Lotus}
1 {Mox Ruby}
1 {Time Walk}
1 {Mox Emerald}
1 {Fastbond}
4 {Helm of Awakening}
1 {Kaervek's Torch}
4 {Candelabra of Tawnos}
1 {Crop Rotation}
4 {Meditate}
1 {Mox Sapphire}
1 {Mana Vault}
1 {Mox Jet}
2 {Dark Ritual}

50 other spells


Sideboard

2 {Capsize}
2 {Morphling}
4 {Mana Drain}
7 {Island}

15 sideboard cards


Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: Lachrymology on April 23, 2012, 11:30:03 PM
This is how we used to do it, before storm, minds desire, tendrils blah blah. Even before worldgorger.
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: BlackJester on April 24, 2012, 12:22:44 AM
How consistent is it?  How likely is a T1 kill?
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: Lachrymology on April 24, 2012, 03:38:41 AM
It's very consistent due to the fact you can mulligan down lower than any deck over ever played and still go off. Like mulligan to 4 black lotus, meditate, helm of awakening and any other mana producer can push the deck into flow. It takes a lot of practicing to be able to manage the mana and predict your draws to a degree. One of the few decks that play very solitare like. Not very much anyone can disrupt singularly bc of the ammount of gogo and perenant building. I hadn't played this in years bc worldgorger came around and it took forever for them to restrict entomb and that deck was far far more
Consistent. Also little tip. Always try and meditate as many times as possible and if you need one more turn to kill them, time walk after meditating do you can take another turn. If that walk goes through they're certainly dead. And kaervecks torch is very very hard to stop or predict game 1
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: Lachrymology on April 24, 2012, 03:41:59 AM
Sorry for spelling,autocorrect weirdness and stuff. iPhone.
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: cltrn81 on April 24, 2012, 08:58:16 AM
Quote from: Lachrymology on April 24, 2012, 03:41:59 AM
Sorry for spelling,autocorrect weirdness and stuff. iPhone.

This thing is always changing my "so's" to "do's".......so annoying and I see it did it to you.
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: BlackJester on April 24, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: Lachrymology on April 24, 2012, 03:38:41 AM
It's very consistent due to the fact you can mulligan down lower than any deck over ever played and still go off. Like mulligan to 4 black lotus, meditate, helm of awakening and any other mana producer can push the deck into flow. It takes a lot of practicing to be able to manage the mana and predict your draws to a degree. One of the few decks that play very solitare like. Not very much anyone can disrupt singularly bc of the ammount of gogo and perenant building. I hadn't played this in years bc worldgorger came around and it took forever for them to restrict entomb and that deck was far far more
Consistent. Also little tip. Always try and meditate as many times as possible and if you need one more turn to kill them, time walk after meditating do you can take another turn. If that walk goes through they're certainly dead. And kaervecks torch is very very hard to stop or predict game 1
How do you {Meditate} as many times as possible?  You mean just cast it every time you draw it, right?
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: Lachrymology on April 25, 2012, 02:18:21 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 24, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: Lachrymology on April 24, 2012, 03:38:41 AM
It's very consistent due to the fact you can mulligan down lower than any deck over ever played and still go off. Like mulligan to 4 black lotus, meditate, helm of awakening and any other mana producer can push the deck into flow. It takes a lot of practicing to be able to manage the mana and predict your draws to a degree. One of the few decks that play very solitare like. Not very much anyone can disrupt singularly bc of the ammount of gogo and perenant building. I hadn't played this in years bc worldgorger came around and it took forever for them to restrict entomb and that deck was far far more
Consistent. Also little tip. Always try and meditate as many times as possible and if you need one more turn to kill them, time walk after meditating do you can take another turn. If that walk goes through they're certainly dead. And kaervecks torch is very very hard to stop or predict game 1
How do you {Meditate} as many times as possible?  You mean just cast it every time you draw it, right?

Yes you want to meditate as man times in one turn as possible and walk if you need the extra tun. You don't want to meditate turn 1 two times then stall and give your opponent 3 turns
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on May 24, 2012, 03:19:50 PM
I feel stupid. How does it work?
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on July 20, 2012, 03:20:22 PM
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on May 24, 2012, 03:19:50 PM
I feel stupid. How does it work?
Still don't get it.
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: BlackJester on July 20, 2012, 03:30:15 PM
{Candelabra of Tawnos}
{Tolarian Academy}
{Kaervek's Torch} or {Stroke of Genius} for a billion.
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: Kuberr on July 20, 2012, 04:28:51 PM
This is exactly my point in the mana burn thread. When I said {Tolarian Acedemy} can go high.
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: BlackJester on July 20, 2012, 04:47:32 PM
Yeah, I love that card!  Everyone keeps bugging me for mine.

Don't have any Candlestix though.    :'(
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: TBNL on July 24, 2012, 01:33:46 AM
Quote from: Testset on July 23, 2012, 08:59:39 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 20, 2012, 03:30:15 PM
{Candelabra of Tawnos}
{Tolarian Academy}
{Kaervek's Torch} or {Stroke of Genius} for a billion.

Check the oracle text. Cadelabra has to tap...
{Voltaic Key}?
Title: Re: Old First Turn Kill
Post by: #noided on July 24, 2012, 10:53:13 AM
Quote from: Testset on July 24, 2012, 10:40:06 AM
Quote from: TBNL on July 24, 2012, 01:33:46 AM
Quote from: Testset on July 23, 2012, 08:59:39 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on July 20, 2012, 03:30:15 PM
{Candelabra of Tawnos}
{Tolarian Academy}
{Kaervek's Torch} or {Stroke of Genius} for a billion.

Check the oracle text. Cadelabra has to tap...
{Voltaic Key}?
That'll give you one more untap, but that's it.

{Capsize}