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Narset 103 cards, 0 sideboard 1 {Urza's Mine} 1 {Mana Confluence} 1 {Lonely Sandbar} 1 {Azorius Guildgate} 1 {Evolving Wilds} 1 {Blood Crypt} 1 {Wind-Scarred Crag} 8 {Mountain} 1 {Temple of Triumph} 1 {Secluded Steppe} 1 {Temple of Epiphany} 1 {Izzet Guildgate} 1 {Shivan Reef} 1 {Flooded Strand} 1 {Mystic Monastery} 5 {Island} 1 {Transguild Promenade} 1 {Battlefield Forge} 1 {Unknown Shores} 1 {Urza's Power Plant} 1 {Radiant Fountain} 1 {Swiftwater Cliffs} 1 {Tranquil Cove} 5 {Plains} 1 {Temple of the False God} 40 lands 1 {Narset, Enlightened Master} 1 creatures 1 {Talisman of Progress} 1 {Molten Rain} 1 {Altar's Light} 1 {Force Bubble} 1 {Sizzle} 1 {Flame Wave} 1 {Polymorphist's Jest} 1 {Ajani Steadfast} 1 {Izzet Cluestone} 1 {Mycosynth Wellspring} 1 {Seething Song} 1 {Dimensional Breach} 1 {Reward the Faithful} 1 {Traitorous Instinct} 1 {Traveler's Amulet} 1 {End Hostilities} 1 {Turn to Frog} 1 {Howl of the Horde} 1 {Act of Treason} 1 {Elspeth, Sun's Champion} 1 {Curse of Exhaustion} 1 {Sword of Kaldra} 1 {Lightning Greaves} 1 {Darksteel Ingot} 1 {Pemmin's Aura} 1 {Lose Calm} 1 {Survey the Wreckage} 1 {Confiscate} 1 {Stone Rain} 1 {Boros Cluestone} 1 {Chandra, Pyromaster} 1 {Pristine Talisman} 1 {Gem of Becoming} 1 {Boros Keyrune} 1 {Fated Conflagration} 1 {Strionic Resonator} 1 {Deflecting Palm} 1 {Temporal Trespass} 1 {Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker} 1 {Ugin's Nexus} 1 {Rite of Flame} 1 {Trash for Treasure} 1 {Seething Song} 1 {Banshee's Blade} 1 {Wing Shards} 1 {Gilded Light} 1 {Ajani, Caller of the Pride} 1 {Rewind} 1 {Domestication} 1 {Volition Reins} 1 {Nahiri, the Lithomancer} 1 {Demolish} 1 {Ojutai Monument} 1 {Decree of Silence} 1 {Security Blockade} 1 {Catch // Release} 1 {Goblinslide} 1 {Ætherspouts} 1 {First Response} 1 {Cranial Archive} 1 {Jeskai Banner} 1 {Gather the Townsfolk} 62 other spells Sideboard

I just made this up, still have to cut 3 cards, any ideas?

Quote from: mgrenier25 on June 14, 2015, 07:51:31 PM
I just made this up, still have to cut 3 cards, any ideas?

{Proteus Staff}. Since Narset is your only creature, you activate it, flip Yor deck, and then stack your entire deck.

Only 2/3 Tron lands?

I would suggest cutting them - they aren't that great in EDH in the first place, and plain bad without the Tower.

I don't get the {Proteus staff} idea, wouldn't that just send Narset back in my library? Maybe I'm missing something. And for the Tron lands I only have one copy of the Tower which is already in another deck, I gotta get a playset of this one as I have the Mine and Power plant x 4. I do agree from playtesting that the chance of getting all 3 of them out is very slim, maybe i'll just cut them

Quote from: mgrenier25 on June 15, 2015, 06:05:41 AM
I don't get the {Proteus staff} idea, wouldn't that just send Narset back in my library? Maybe I'm missing something. And for the Tron lands I only have one copy of the Tower which is already in another deck, I gotta get a playset of this one as I have the Mine and Power plant x 4. I do agree from playtesting that the chance of getting all 3 of them out is very slim, maybe i'll just cut them

The staff will put Narset (being your only creature) onto the bottom of the library. You then will reveal cards from the top of your library till you reveal a creature (being Narset, at the very bottom.) Narset goes back into play, and you put all cards revealed this way on the "bottom of your library in any order" being as you revealed your entire deck, you get to stack your deck from top to bottom.

Oh, now i get it, so it´s basically a scry my whole deck for 3 lands, I like that

 {Reconnaissance} is a definately needed in here

What would happen if I {Howl of the horde} or {Chandra, Pyromaster} ult a {Temporal Trespass}? Or even {Strionic Resonator} a {Ugin's Nexus}? Do I get more than 1 extra turn or do I get only one?

Quote from: mgrenier25 on June 16, 2015, 01:59:55 PM
What would happen if I {Howl of the horde} or {Chandra, Pyromaster} ult a {Temporal Trespass}? Or even {Strionic Resonator} a {Ugin's Nexus}? Do I get more than 1 extra turn or do I get only one?

For starters, you can't use resonator on Nexus. It's a replacement effect, not a triggered ability.
Chandra and Howl just copy the card/spell, so you'd get more extra turns. You'd take them one after the other.

My bad on resonator and nexus, so even if trespass says to take an extra turn after this turn, copies would still grant more extra turns?

Yep. Also, {Chandra, the Firebrand} is arguably better in this shell for copying extra turns/combat phases.

Idk, I like Pryomaster 0 ability a lot, sure you get the spell copy with a -2 on Firebrand and you dont need to exile 10, but you only get one copy instead of 3.

It's very hard to ult a Planeswalker in most EDH games so I wouldn't let that be the determining factor. Why not both though?

I'd prefer to fin a spot for {Koth of the hammer} instead, and i'd go with {Chandra Nalar} over Firebrand

{Reconnaissance} is definitely a must too

Quote from: mgrenier25 on June 17, 2015, 09:33:22 AM
I'd prefer to fin a spot for {Koth of the hammer} instead, and i'd go with {Chandra Nalar} over Firebrand

What's your reasoning? I don't agree with either of these.

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 17, 2015, 02:50:09 PM

Quote from: mgrenier25 on June 17, 2015, 09:33:22 AM
I'd prefer to fin a spot for {Koth of the hammer} instead, and i'd go with {Chandra Nalar} over Firebrand

What's your reasoning? I don't agree with either of these.

Koth -2 can help me ramp narset a bit, his +1 can be used to clear the path for her to attack. And both of them can Ult within 2-3 turns, maybe less.

Quote from: Taysby on June 17, 2015, 06:00:05 PM
or you could just win the turn you cast narset.  ;)

You see a win the turn I cast her? Cause that did not happen yet,from what i've seen so far, 2-3 turns after she's out it´s a win, in 1vs1 though, haven't tried free for all yet

Quote from: mgrenier25 on June 17, 2015, 06:26:23 PM

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 17, 2015, 02:50:09 PM

Quote from: mgrenier25 on June 17, 2015, 09:33:22 AM
I'd prefer to fin a spot for {Koth of the hammer} instead, and i'd go with {Chandra Nalar} over Firebrand

What's your reasoning? I don't agree with either of these.

Koth -2 can help me ramp narset a bit, his +1 can be used to clear the path for her to attack. And both of them can Ult within 2-3 turns, maybe less.

In a three colour deck Koth's -2 isn't going to bet you much mana at all, especially considering he's a 4 mana investment all by himself. His +1 is not that helpful, how often is a 4/4 relevant in EDG? Nevermind that it could die meaning you have one less land to work with which is bad news. Koth's ult is not going to be that helpful as again, you won't have a ton of mountains to work with.

He's amazing in mono red but he is sub optimal here.

{Chandra Nalaar} is pretty bad. Her plus one is not very relevant in EDH. Her -x is inefficient removal and her ult is great /but nobody is going to sit there and let that happen./ Planeswalker ults are awesome, but they are not common occurrences.

By all means, run them. They're cool. But they're not the best options IMO.

I actually run {Chandra, the Firebrand} and {Koth of the Hammer} in my {Narset, Enlightened Master} simply because they're Planeswalkers that I own. 9/10 times {Chandra, the Firebrand} is good and {Koth of the Hammer} untaps a couple mountains and that's it.

Getting that {sword of Kaldra} exiled isn't fun loll

I'm thinking about getting a copy of {Ajani Vengeant}, he seems to fit right in

Quote from: mgrenier25 on June 19, 2015, 12:23:23 PM
I'm thinking about getting a copy of {Ajani Vengeant}, he seems to fit right in

Sounds great to me.

Quote from: Taysby on June 17, 2015, 06:00:05 PM
or you could just win the turn you cast narset.  ;)

Well, if you take extra turns, it's not quite the same turn is it?

;)

Yeah i guess you're right