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Title: Manifest
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 09, 2015, 08:08:59 PM
Can I manifest {Emrakul, The Aeons Torn} and then {cloudshift} him? Does he flip?

My friend played a morph card face down then cloudshifted it and it was like 6 mana cheaper... is that legit?
Title: Re: Manifest
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 09, 2015, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 09, 2015, 08:08:59 PM
Can I manifest {Emrakul, The Aeons Torn} and then cloudshift him? Does he flip?

Yes, yes. There was a deck built around this. I made one too.
Title: Re: Manifest
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 09, 2015, 08:10:34 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 09, 2015, 08:10:03 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 09, 2015, 08:08:59 PM
Can I manifest {Emrakul, The Aeons Torn} and then cloudshift him? Does he flip?

Yes, yes. There was a deck built around this. I made one too.

Well guess what I'm doing now... >.>
Title: Re: Manifest
Post by: Kaylesh on June 09, 2015, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 09, 2015, 08:08:59 PM
Can I manifest {Emrakul, The Aeons Torn} and then {cloudshift} him? Does he flip?

My friend played a morph card face down then cloudshifted it and it was like 6 mana cheaper... is that legit?
Yeah, since he gets exiled face up, and retains no memory of his state when leaving the battlefield, Emmy comes back in full glory.

When you shift a morph, do note this does not count as turning the card face up, so any triggered effects on unmorphing will not trigger.
Title: Re: Manifest
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 09, 2015, 08:49:40 PM
I'm just looking to:

Manifest Emmy. Toss out {Mycosynth Lattice} and {Mirror Gallery}. {Cloudshift} the upside down Emmy then use {Sculpting Steel} on my Emmy that is considered an artifact to get my extra turn for 3 mana. XD

And just for shits/giggles... put out a {Conjurer's Closet} for the {Sculpting Steel}. :3
Title: Re: Manifest
Post by: Kaylesh on June 09, 2015, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 09, 2015, 08:36:16 PM
No ETB effects, no flip effects, No "cast" effects

So that means {Hooded Hydra}s die when shifted, {Emrakul, The Aeons Torn} doesn't give you an extra turn...
Except ETB effects DO trigger on a cloudshift. It enters from exile. Cast no, so no extra turn. {hooded hydra} comes in as 0/0, because x=0
Title: Re: Manifest
Post by: Sardok on June 09, 2015, 09:15:54 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 09, 2015, 08:49:40 PM
I'm just looking to:

Manifest Emmy. Toss out {Mycosynth Lattice} and {Mirror Gallery}. {Cloudshift} the upside down Emmy then use {Sculpting Steel} on my Emmy that is considered an artifact to get my extra turn for 3 mana. XD

And just for shits/giggles... put out a {Conjurer's Closet} for the {Sculpting Steel}. :3

This does not work.

You only get an extra turn when you cast Emrakul. {Sculpting Steel} only enters the battlefield as another artifact.
Title: Re: Manifest
Post by: rarehuntertay on June 09, 2015, 09:18:31 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 09, 2015, 09:12:22 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 09, 2015, 08:49:40 PM
I'm just looking to:

Manifest Emmy. Toss out {Mycosynth Lattice} and {Mirror Gallery}. {Cloudshift} the upside down Emmy then use {Sculpting Steel} on my Emmy that is considered an artifact to get my extra turn for 3 mana. XD

And just for shits/giggles... put out a {Conjurer's Closet} for the {Sculpting Steel}. :3

Gotta watch that legend rule...
And wouldn't get the extra turn. Sculpting steel is cast and enters the battlefield as Emmy. You aren't casting it as Emmy, so no extra turn
Title: Re: Manifest
Post by: Avodroc13 on June 09, 2015, 11:04:04 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on June 09, 2015, 09:18:31 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on June 09, 2015, 09:12:22 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on June 09, 2015, 08:49:40 PM
I'm just looking to:

Manifest Emmy. Toss out {Mycosynth Lattice} and {Mirror Gallery}. {Cloudshift} the upside down Emmy then use {Sculpting Steel} on my Emmy that is considered an artifact to get my extra turn for 3 mana. XD

And just for shits/giggles... put out a {Conjurer's Closet} for the {Sculpting Steel}. :3

Gotta watch that legend rule...
And wouldn't get the extra turn. Sculpting steel is cast and enters the battlefield as Emmy. You aren't casting it as Emmy, so no extra turn

Is there a card that auto bounces an artifact/creature to your hand at EoT?