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Title: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on June 08, 2015, 08:35:03 PM
I'm debating between the two.

If money doesn't matter, which has a better chance against an unknown meta?
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Codester1991 on June 08, 2015, 09:47:51 PM
I'd say wilted because I play it and it's super reliable, especially with hand disruption being such a big thing right now.
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 08, 2015, 09:57:11 PM
Agreed
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Mattao19 on June 08, 2015, 11:21:57 PM
That's the thing though Wilted Abzan is a meta call deck it's a deck built to beat BGx and hand disruption.

For raw power I'd go Jund over all 3 personally
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 08, 2015, 11:30:58 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 08, 2015, 11:21:57 PM
That's the thing though Wilted Abzan is a meta call deck it's a deck built to beat BGx and hand disruption.

For raw power I'd go Jund over all 3 personally
Agreed. I'm having fun hombrewing jund.
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Codester1991 on June 08, 2015, 11:44:41 PM
Nah 😜 Abzan all the way!

Although I run bloom Titan now. Lmao.
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Munchlax on June 09, 2015, 12:17:45 AM
Screw these fools and play Grixis Delver/Tasigur
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on June 09, 2015, 12:19:06 AM
I meant money is no hindrance between the two, as its marginal. I don't want to buy goyfs and lilis :P.

I was talking to my modern guru friend, and he thinks coco is just a higher power level and wilted is a meta call.
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 09, 2015, 12:28:54 AM
Is coco abzan the melira combo deck? If so I've got to say the power level is practically the same when you play against it with wilted abzan. There is a guy that works at my lgs, and every modern tourney I've played in he's been there with his melira company and I always place higher than him when I play wilted. His list is solid and he's real fun to play against, but wilted has resilience.
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Kaalia with haste on June 09, 2015, 12:35:54 AM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 09, 2015, 12:28:54 AM
Is coco abzan the melira combo deck? If so I've got to say the power level is practically the same when you play against it with wilted abzan. There is a guy that works at my lgs, and every modern tourney I've played in he's been there with his melira company and I always place higher than him when I play wilted. His list is solid and he's real fun to play against, but wilted has resilience.
I think they cut 2 of the melira in favor of new anafenza. She's pretty sweet in terms of value, and does the same thing for the combo
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on June 09, 2015, 12:49:34 AM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 09, 2015, 12:28:54 AM
Is coco abzan the melira combo deck? If so I've got to say the power level is practically the same when you play against it with wilted abzan. There is a guy that works at my lgs, and every modern tourney I've played in he's been there with his melira company and I always place higher than him when I play wilted. His list is solid and he's real fun to play against, but wilted has resilience.
Noted.
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Spencer Addington on June 09, 2015, 01:15:41 AM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 09, 2015, 12:35:54 AM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on June 09, 2015, 12:28:54 AM
Is coco abzan the melira combo deck? If so I've got to say the power level is practically the same when you play against it with wilted abzan. There is a guy that works at my lgs, and every modern tourney I've played in he's been there with his melira company and I always place higher than him when I play wilted. His list is solid and he's real fun to play against, but wilted has resilience.
I think they cut 2 of the melira in favor of new anafenza. She's pretty sweet in terms of value, and does the same thing for the combo
A lot of people run only 1-2 melira and 3-4 Anafenza since she is more powerful. The guy at my lgs sides in 2 when he plays against infect.
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Hunteroffire9 on June 09, 2015, 04:36:48 PM
Coco abzan is a miles better deck. Wilted abzan has completely fallen off the meta d abzan decks because of it. Coco has the ability to play a fair Aggro game with townships and with disruption or even win out of no where  with the combo. It has more disruption vs every deck post board with the silver bullet package and can destroy decks trying to play a fair game. Coco is now the go to abzan archetype considering the best midrange deck now is jund.
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on June 09, 2015, 04:44:57 PM
Most people are saying wilted over on Reddit. I think I'll build that and wait for a homogenized coco list.
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: rarehuntertay on June 09, 2015, 05:42:49 PM
Build something unexpected and go play 🐠🐟
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: blackychan1 on June 10, 2015, 12:50:58 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on June 09, 2015, 05:42:49 PM
Build something unexpected and go play 🐠🐟
That's s funny way of writing "Temur Delver".
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 10, 2015, 01:51:11 PM
If you in luv with the CoCo
Make sure you get it for the low low
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: MuggyWuggy on June 10, 2015, 01:54:34 PM
(Baking soda! I got baking soda!)
Title: Re: Wilted Abzan or CoCo Abzan?
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on June 10, 2015, 06:27:32 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on June 09, 2015, 05:42:49 PM
Build something unexpected and go play 🐠🐟
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/brew-of-the-week-modern-suicide-zoo/ ?