Warning: lots of words
Took this to a 3-1 finish at modern FNM this week. Any constructive criticism?
4x {lingering souls}
4x {spectral procession}
4x {raise the alarm}
12 Tokens
2x {sorin, solemn visitor}
4x {intangible virtue}
2x {honor of the pure}
8 Anthems
4x {inquisition of kozilek}
2x {Thoughtseize}
4x {path to exile}
2x {murderous cut}
2x {zealous persecution}
14 Disruption
2x {hero of bladehold}
2 random finishers
4x {flooded strand}
4x {windswept Heath}
4x {godless shrine}
3x {plains}
2x {windbrisk heights}
1x {urborg, tomb of yawgmoth}
2x {ghost quarter}
3x {isolated chapel}
1x {swamp}
24 lands
Sideboard
2x {deathmark} comes in all the time. Great card.
2x {rule of law} storm and infect hate. Less potent now that infect has {become immense}, still powerful though
3x {timely reinforcements} this deck struggles with aggressive decks without sorin, and even then it's an uphill battle. This comes in against zoo, affinity, burn, and basically any deck that I don't think I'm well enough equipped to grind out yet
3x {stony silence} .love. affinity and .love. tron, horrible matchups for me (less so affinity but if they draw {etched champion} the game is close to over if they have metal craft. Tron has main deck pyroclasm and oblivion stone, 'nuff said.
2x {Thoughtseize} combo decks, control decks, any deck with counterspells this comes in.
1x {kor firewalker} burn is either my worst or second worst matchup (GR tron being #1) I want as much hate for them as possible.
2x {sundering growth} decks with {ghostly prison}, {splinter twin}, {night of souls betrayal}, {genesis chamber}, {blood moon}, and affinity and tron. Basically a better disenchant.
Notes: I have allotted myself the same number of colorless lands as almost every tokens player, 2. This allows me to cast spectral procession on time when I need it. I am currently running ghost quarter because it really helps against tron, it can wipe out an {inkmoth nexus} whether I'm playing against affinity or infect, {creeping tar pit} if grixis delver {raging ravine} or {treetop village} if jund, {celestial colonnade} against control, and basically if they have any problem lands I need to deal with. This far it's been pretty helpful but I've considered going back to one of these options:
{temple garden} + {gavony township}
2x {vault of the archangel}
2x {tectonic edge}
Which do you guys think is the best?
I am playing on a reasonable budget, as I'm still in high school, and can't afford {marsh flats} or {bitterblossom} so sadly I can't play those.
My meta basically looks like this:
Affinity
Jund
Grixis twin
Grixis delver
RG tron
Burn
Some random jank decks (the TO basically plays whatever)
U tron
BW tokens (not me)
Genesis wave combo
UWR ojutai control
Infect
Knowing this information, what changes would you make to my sideboard, bearing in mind that there are a reasonable amount of changes I can't predict.
Matchups:
Infect, really really in my favor. I have so many removal spells and hand disruption spells that even really good infect pilots would have a hard time fighting through a decent hand.
Burn: bad. Horrible. Awful. Lose game one every time and it's hard to win 2 and 3. They can outrace me and my removal spells are too plentiful because they never really have too many creatures.
RG tron: as stated above, it's no bueno for me. They have pyroclasms in their MAIN DECK, that's just so good against me. Plus this deck plays like a midrange deck and anyone who's played modern knows that tron is the killer of midrange.
Delver: definitely good MU here. All of their spot removal spells are bad, and it's very convenient that half a lingering souls trades with delver. Zealous persecution also wrecks their board, most notably young pyromancer.
Jund/junk : good. Probably 55-45 me, their spot removal is really bad against all my tokens, and inquisiton is really bad against this deck.
Twin: pretty solid here too. Lots of disruption to break up the combo game one and in game 2 it's hard to play control when so many if your cards (spot removal) are really bad.
Affinity: honestly it comes down to the etched champions, that's pretty much it. If they have it, they win, if they don't, I win (mostly)
UWR control: not great. This deck is pretty weak to counterspells and sweepers.
U tron: not good. Very bad actually. It's really hard to find a way to slug through all their counterspells, plus their {cyclonic rift} is amazing.
Hmmmm, well if burn is pretty bad maybe leyline of sanctity sideboard instead of the kor firewalker? Sure he has pro red and you gain life but he can be path to exiled and seeing as most burn decks are Boros burn when it's at a higher comp level the leylines are a safer bet. Also, timely reinforcements and sorin should be more than enough life gain in those instances.
Also, I'm tempted to say take your intangible virtue down to 3, sideboard two inquisitions, and mainboard your timely reinforcements. Two friends of mine run BW tokens and the timely reinforcements is just one of those cards I can't stand when it's played against me. Perhaps it would help your g1 burn matchup as well.
Edit: or inquisitions to 3 and murderous cuts down to a 1 of and keeping your intangible virtue.
Edit #2: {Maelstrom Pulse} is a thing, perhaps running 2 {intangible virtue}s and 2 {honor of the pure}
I like this deck, I think it can be even better if you add {Monastery Mentor}, I have 3 in my version but I don't know if he's worth playing in this type of deck, he's much better in jeskai decks with cheap spells. The more I play Brimaaz the more I hate him :( , I'm sorry for those who think he's great but he gets killed in 90% of my matches. An other card I think could fit into the sideboard is {Dawn to Dusk}, listen I know this card is kinda bad, but I see potential. It can pull from your graveyard cards like {Intangible Virtue} or {Bitterblossom}, I'm thinking of adding 2 copies in my version's sideboard. Anyways the deck looks good and I really like it :)
Quote from: Codester1991 on June 08, 2015, 02:01:21 AM
Hmmmm, well if burn is pretty bad maybe leyline of sanctity sideboard instead of the kor firewalker? Sure he has pro red and you gain life but he can be path to exiled and seeing as most burn decks are Boros burn when it's at a higher comp level the leylines are a safer bet. Also, timely reinforcements and sorin should be more than enough life gain in those instances.
Also, I'm tempted to say take your intangible virtue down to 3, sideboard two inquisitions, and mainboard your timely reinforcements. Two friends of mine run BW tokens and the timely reinforcements is just one of those cards I can't stand when it's played against me. Perhaps it would help your g1 burn matchup as well.
Edit: or inquisitions to 3 and murderous cuts down to a 1 of and keeping your intangible virtue.
Edit #2: {Maelstrom Pulse} is a thing, perhaps running 2 {intangible virtue}s and 2 {honor of the pure}
I thought about leyline but the main argument is path to exile kills the firewalker and not the leyline, but burn would just bring in destructive revelry, basically stopping it. Kor firewalker, I have 2 draw steps to find it and still be able to cast it on time, with leyline I need to have it in my opener and if I don't the damage will be done before I can drop it. Plus kor firewalker hoses burn, and storm would probably bring in empty the warrens against any white deck that might have leyline. Kor firewalker would just buy me some time until I hit a zealous persecution, ideally.
I don't hate the idea of main decking timely reinforcements, my burn matchup is just that bad. I do want to keep in the full 6 main deck disruption spells, and intangible virtue is just too good to cut. I'm probably gonna ditch a rise the alarm in favor of one in my main deck. Maybe 2 depending on how it works out.
Maelstrom pulse is definitely a thing but it really isn't difficult to play around. If I'm playing against any GB deck, I just don't slam 2 virtues and just keep on smacking them with spirit tokens. Plus vigilance is a wombo combo with sorin's +1, seeing as it lasts till your next turn.
Quote from: Saulon on June 08, 2015, 05:23:29 AM
I like this deck, I think it can be even better if you add {Monastery Mentor}, I have 3 in my version but I don't know if he's worth playing in this type of deck, he's much better in jeskai decks with cheap spells. The more I play Brimaaz the more I hate him :( , I'm sorry for those who think he's great but he gets killed in 90% of my matches. An other card I think could fit into the sideboard is {Dawn to Dusk}, listen I know this card is kinda bad, but I see potential. It can pull from your graveyard cards like {Intangible Virtue} or {Bitterblossom}, I'm thinking of adding 2 copies in my version's sideboard. Anyways the deck looks good and I really like it :)
The thing about Brimaz is that he isn't a card you can just slam on turn 3 unless you're working with mostly perfect information. Usually if I've got Brimaz in hand, my disruption spell will take a terminate or something, and while they're digging for an answer, I'm putting in pressure, and when they find it, they still have to deal with a bunch of cats.
Monastery mentor is better in a deck with lots of can trips. I also don't have any proactive 1-2 mana spells, except zealous persecution. I suppose I could try him under the same case as Brimaz but lightning bolt is a really big risk factor here.
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 08, 2015, 11:18:54 AM
Quote from: Codester1991 on June 08, 2015, 02:01:21 AM
Hmmmm, well if burn is pretty bad maybe leyline of sanctity sideboard instead of the kor firewalker? Sure he has pro red and you gain life but he can be path to exiled and seeing as most burn decks are Boros burn when it's at a higher comp level the leylines are a safer bet. Also, timely reinforcements and sorin should be more than enough life gain in those instances.
Also, I'm tempted to say take your intangible virtue down to 3, sideboard two inquisitions, and mainboard your timely reinforcements. Two friends of mine run BW tokens and the timely reinforcements is just one of those cards I can't stand when it's played against me. Perhaps it would help your g1 burn matchup as well.
Edit: or inquisitions to 3 and murderous cuts down to a 1 of and keeping your intangible virtue.
Edit #2: {Maelstrom Pulse} is a thing, perhaps running 2 {intangible virtue}s and 2 {honor of the pure}
I thought about leyline but the main argument is path to exile kills the firewalker and not the leyline, but burn would just bring in destructive revelry, basically stopping it. Kor firewalker, I have 2 draw steps to find it and still be able to cast it on time, with leyline I need to have it in my opener and if I don't the damage will be done before I can drop it. Plus kor firewalker hoses burn, and storm would probably bring in empty the warrens against any white deck that might have leyline. Kor firewalker would just buy me some time until I hit a zealous persecution, ideally.
I don't hate the idea of main decking timely reinforcements, my burn matchup is just that bad. I do want to keep in the full 6 main deck disruption spells, and intangible virtue is just too good to cut. I'm probably gonna ditch a rise the alarm in favor of one in my main deck. Maybe 2 depending on how it works out.
Maelstrom pulse is definitely a thing but it really isn't difficult to play around. If I'm playing against any GB deck, I just don't slam 2 virtues and just keep on smacking them with spirit tokens. Plus vigilance is a wombo combo with sorin's +1, seeing as it lasts till your next turn.
Well, you seem to have it under control sir! Lol
Quote from: Codester1991 on June 08, 2015, 11:38:27 AM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 08, 2015, 11:18:54 AM
Quote from: Codester1991 on June 08, 2015, 02:01:21 AM
Hmmmm, well if burn is pretty bad maybe leyline of sanctity sideboard instead of the kor firewalker? Sure he has pro red and you gain life but he can be path to exiled and seeing as most burn decks are Boros burn when it's at a higher comp level the leylines are a safer bet. Also, timely reinforcements and sorin should be more than enough life gain in those instances.
Also, I'm tempted to say take your intangible virtue down to 3, sideboard two inquisitions, and mainboard your timely reinforcements. Two friends of mine run BW tokens and the timely reinforcements is just one of those cards I can't stand when it's played against me. Perhaps it would help your g1 burn matchup as well.
Edit: or inquisitions to 3 and murderous cuts down to a 1 of and keeping your intangible virtue.
Edit #2: {Maelstrom Pulse} is a thing, perhaps running 2 {intangible virtue}s and 2 {honor of the pure}
I thought about leyline but the main argument is path to exile kills the firewalker and not the leyline, but burn would just bring in destructive revelry, basically stopping it. Kor firewalker, I have 2 draw steps to find it and still be able to cast it on time, with leyline I need to have it in my opener and if I don't the damage will be done before I can drop it. Plus kor firewalker hoses burn, and storm would probably bring in empty the warrens against any white deck that might have leyline. Kor firewalker would just buy me some time until I hit a zealous persecution, ideally.
I don't hate the idea of main decking timely reinforcements, my burn matchup is just that bad. I do want to keep in the full 6 main deck disruption spells, and intangible virtue is just too good to cut. I'm probably gonna ditch a rise the alarm in favor of one in my main deck. Maybe 2 depending on how it works out.
Maelstrom pulse is definitely a thing but it really isn't difficult to play around. If I'm playing against any GB deck, I just don't slam 2 virtues and just keep on smacking them with spirit tokens. Plus vigilance is a wombo combo with sorin's +1, seeing as it lasts till your next turn.
Well, you seem to have it under control sir! Lol
This deck has a lot of thought put into it! Thanks for the idea of main deck timely reinforcements, I'll have to try it!
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Idk what you would cut, but I think you need more token generators. Every game you've lost against me or anyone else (Hatebears at MTGCardmarket) is because you just top deck land/anthems over and over again.
More tokens, more action.
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on July 16, 2015, 08:38:58 PM
Idk what you would cut, but I think you need more token generators. Every game you've lost against me or anyone else (Hatebears at MTGCardmarket) is because you just top deck land/anthems over and over again.
More tokens, more action.
Recently added 4 raise the alarms. This is a significantly smaller issue now.