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Title: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Boomer17 on May 31, 2015, 10:19:57 PM
after reading my {sliver legion} card it seams maybe there is more to that species than we think.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Boomer17 on May 31, 2015, 10:20:33 PM
Could this be were we get our 5 color walker
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 31, 2015, 10:30:10 PM
I'm not seeing it.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 31, 2015, 11:09:29 PM
Bet you any amount of money you're wrong.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Boomer17 on May 31, 2015, 11:24:55 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 31, 2015, 10:30:10 PM
I'm not seeing it.

Says inside the clicking and chattering is a young unique mind wonder what's it talking about
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 31, 2015, 11:48:08 PM
Quote from: Boomer17 on May 31, 2015, 11:24:55 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 31, 2015, 10:30:10 PM
I'm not seeing it.

Says inside the clicking and chattering is a young unique mind wonder what's it talking about

This doesn't make sense to me. The best I can figure is "inside the clicking and chattering is a young unique mind wondering what it's talking about."

Which sounds like an insult to my intelligence.

Sliver is a creature type. It says "Sliver creatures get...for each Sliver on the battlefield." (Also it's in the type section of the card)

The Planeswalker type is the name of the Planeswalker. So the Planeswalker's name would have to be Sliver. Not seeing that happen.

You could have, say, a tribal sorcery (like {All is Dust}) but it'd never be on the battlefield. This is a pretty old card too. We would have seen something by now. Maybe I'm wrong, but as I said. I'm not seeing it.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Boomer17 on June 01, 2015, 12:01:40 AM
Not true as there are cards In Future sight that have yet to see a printing yet. If I remember correctly future sight was a set to show what was to come in the future example look at  {Lucent Liminid} This creature type was found in theros but shown a long time before.

I was just saying the text In The card makes me wonder about maybe there is a something more to the slivers, a master maybe that is controlling them all a master brain Maybe. Will there will be a 5 color walker and could it be part of the sliver tribe somehow.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Splicer on June 01, 2015, 12:23:59 AM
Sliver Mind
{W}{U}{B}{R}{G}
Planeswalker-Sliver

+2: Put a 1/1 sliver creature token onto the battlefield.

-3: Search your library for a sliver creature card and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.

-8: You get an emblem with, "Sliver creatures you control get +3/+3, deathtouch, first strike, trample, haste, and flying.

Loyalty: 4
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Codester1991 on June 01, 2015, 12:56:29 AM
Quote from: Splicer on June 01, 2015, 12:23:59 AM
Sliver Mind
{W}{U}{B}{R}{G}
Planeswalker-Sliver

+1: Put a 1/1 sliver creature token onto the battlefield.

-2: Search your library for a sliver creature card and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.

-8: You get an emblem with, "Sliver creatures you control get +5/+5, deathtouch, first strike, trample, haste, lifelink, and flying.

Loyalty: 4

The only changes I'd think would make the card work.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Cender on June 01, 2015, 06:30:27 AM
If one sliver gained its planeswalker spark, wouldn't all slivers gain that spark?
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Kaylesh on June 01, 2015, 08:51:01 AM
Quote from: Cender on June 01, 2015, 06:30:27 AM
If one sliver gained its planeswalker spark, wouldn't all slivers gain that spark?
Not if said sliver was an individual being like the Queen.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 01, 2015, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: Boomer17 on June 01, 2015, 12:01:40 AM
Not true as there are cards In Future sight that have yet to see a printing yet. If I remember correctly future sight was a set to show what was to come in the future example look at  {Lucent Liminid} This creature type was found in theros but shown a long time before.

I was just saying the text In The card makes me wonder about maybe there is a something more to the slivers, a master maybe that is controlling them all a master brain Maybe. Will there will be a 5 color walker and could it be part of the sliver tribe somehow.

Elementals have been around since long before Theros. I don't see it fitting with lore or game mechanics very well at all. A Walker that works with them? Maybe. {Venser's Sliver}
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Boomer17 on June 01, 2015, 11:59:44 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 01, 2015, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: Boomer17 on June 01, 2015, 12:01:40 AM
Not true as there are cards In Future sight that have yet to see a printing yet. If I remember correctly future sight was a set to show what was to come in the future example look at  {Lucent Liminid} This creature type was found in theros but shown a long time before.

I was just saying the text In The card makes me wonder about maybe there is a something more to the slivers, a master maybe that is controlling them all a master brain Maybe. Will there will be a 5 color walker and could it be part of the sliver tribe somehow.

Elementals have been around since long before Theros. I don't see it fitting with lore or game mechanics very well at all. A Walker that works with them? Maybe. {Venser's Sliver}
Man I'm not explaining my self. enchantment creature
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Splicer on June 01, 2015, 12:11:59 PM
Quote from: Codester1991 on June 01, 2015, 12:56:29 AM
Quote from: Splicer on June 01, 2015, 12:23:59 AM
Sliver Mind
{W}{U}{B}{R}{G}
Planeswalker-Sliver

+1: Put a 1/1 sliver creature token onto the battlefield.

-2: Search your library for a sliver creature card and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.

-8: You get an emblem with, "Sliver creatures you control get +5/+5, deathtouch, first strike, trample, haste, lifelink, and flying.

Loyalty: 4

The only changes I'd think would make the card work.

I like your version better.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 01, 2015, 04:44:07 PM
Quote from: Boomer17 on June 01, 2015, 11:59:44 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 01, 2015, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: Boomer17 on June 01, 2015, 12:01:40 AM
Not true as there are cards In Future sight that have yet to see a printing yet. If I remember correctly future sight was a set to show what was to come in the future example look at  {Lucent Liminid} This creature type was found in theros but shown a long time before.

I was just saying the text In The card makes me wonder about maybe there is a something more to the slivers, a master maybe that is controlling them all a master brain Maybe. Will there will be a 5 color walker and could it be part of the sliver tribe somehow.

Elementals have been around since long before Theros. I don't see it fitting with lore or game mechanics very well at all. A Walker that works with them? Maybe. {Venser's Sliver}
Man I'm not explaining my self. enchantment creature

You're right. You're not explaining yourself. There are some things kicking around in future sight that we're waiting on. A sliver Planeswalker doesn't sound like one of them.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 01, 2015, 05:50:50 PM
I realize that I've been an ass in my responses here. I apologize.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Boomer17 on June 01, 2015, 06:27:58 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 01, 2015, 05:50:50 PM
I realize that I've been an ass in my responses here. I apologize.

I'm not offended 
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: redwolv on June 01, 2015, 08:06:54 PM
I would love to see a sliver walker, but i will always like new sliver stuff, it was the first deck i ever built on my own and i always love the hivemind creatures no matter the game.

Tldr: I like silvers.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Phoenix X30 on June 01, 2015, 09:36:48 PM
Aren't all slivers in the hive connected? So 1 gets a spark then they all do?
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Codester1991 on June 01, 2015, 09:45:55 PM
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on June 01, 2015, 09:36:48 PM
Aren't all slivers in the hive connected? So 1 gets a spark then they all do?

An army of sliver planes walkers! The horror!
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Deebiia on June 02, 2015, 04:55:01 AM
What is something unique that this "Sliver Planeswalker" would have that any combination of 4-5 other slivers won't give em? You want em bigger? Legion or megantic. Protection? Ward. Everything except making them have something like "inspired" or some other new mechanic that has not been creates as of yet. A sliver Planeswalker would be redundant as well. People already see slivers and want to kill the deck entirely. Making a sliver creature basically become a Planeswalker just seems pointless to me.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 02, 2015, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: Deebiia on June 02, 2015, 04:55:01 AM
What is something unique that this "Sliver Planeswalker" would have that any combination of 4-5 other slivers won't give em? You want em bigger? Legion or megantic. Protection? Ward. Everything except making them have something like "inspired" or some other new mechanic that has not been creates as of yet. A sliver Planeswalker would be redundant as well. People already see slivers and want to kill the deck entirely. Making a sliver creature basically become a Planeswalker just seems pointless to me.

Actually emblem based buffs would be insane...
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Deebiia on June 03, 2015, 11:22:54 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 02, 2015, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: Deebiia on June 02, 2015, 04:55:01 AM
What is something unique that this "Sliver Planeswalker" would have that any combination of 4-5 other slivers won't give em? You want em bigger? Legion or megantic. Protection? Ward. Everything except making them have something like "inspired" or some other new mechanic that has not been creates as of yet. A sliver Planeswalker would be redundant as well. People already see slivers and want to kill the deck entirely. Making a sliver creature basically become a Planeswalker just seems pointless to me.

Actually emblem based buffs would be insane...
Good point, but what would it give that would be actually playable? There is no way a "all slivers get +x/+x" could be a thing or suddenly you drop a 1/1 sliver that becomes, say, a 4/4. It suddenly becomes very hard to kill. Not including any other sliver that can/will also be in play that either buffs each sliver again or gives them some kind of protection. I do agree though that seeing a sliver-like emblem would be cool, I just don't think there is much they could do with it since it would either be way too strong or unplayably weak.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Codester1991 on June 03, 2015, 12:00:44 PM
Quote from: Deebiia on June 03, 2015, 11:22:54 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 02, 2015, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: Deebiia on June 02, 2015, 04:55:01 AM
What is something unique that this "Sliver Planeswalker" would have that any combination of 4-5 other slivers won't give em? You want em bigger? Legion or megantic. Protection? Ward. Everything except making them have something like "inspired" or some other new mechanic that has not been creates as of yet. A sliver Planeswalker would be redundant as well. People already see slivers and want to kill the deck entirely. Making a sliver creature basically become a Planeswalker just seems pointless to me.

Actually emblem based buffs would be insane...
Good point, but what would it give that would be actually playable? There is no way a "all slivers get +x/+x" could be a thing or suddenly you drop a 1/1 sliver that becomes, say, a 4/4. It suddenly becomes very hard to kill. Not including any other sliver that can/will also be in play that either buffs each sliver again or gives them some kind of protection. I do agree though that seeing a sliver-like emblem would be cool, I just don't think there is much they could do with it since it would either be way too strong or unplayably weak.

Well most emblems are win cons in the first place so I'm sure an emblem with +x\+x would be viable considering other emblems such as "your opponent can't cast creature spells" "search your deck for a card and your opponents and cast them without paying their mana cost" or "you get an 8/8 kraken at the end of each of your end steps" emblems were meant to be broken so a broken sliver emblem would fit well.
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Munchlax on June 03, 2015, 02:41:13 PM
Quote from: Codester1991 on June 03, 2015, 12:00:44 PM
Quote from: Deebiia on June 03, 2015, 11:22:54 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 02, 2015, 04:23:34 PM
Quote from: Deebiia on June 02, 2015, 04:55:01 AM
What is something unique that this "Sliver Planeswalker" would have that any combination of 4-5 other slivers won't give em? You want em bigger? Legion or megantic. Protection? Ward. Everything except making them have something like "inspired" or some other new mechanic that has not been creates as of yet. A sliver Planeswalker would be redundant as well. People already see slivers and want to kill the deck entirely. Making a sliver creature basically become a Planeswalker just seems pointless to me.

Actually emblem based buffs would be insane...
Good point, but what would it give that would be actually playable? There is no way a "all slivers get +x/+x" could be a thing or suddenly you drop a 1/1 sliver that becomes, say, a 4/4. It suddenly becomes very hard to kill. Not including any other sliver that can/will also be in play that either buffs each sliver again or gives them some kind of protection. I do agree though that seeing a sliver-like emblem would be cool, I just don't think there is much they could do with it since it would either be way too strong or unplayably weak.

Well most emblems are win cons in the first place so I'm sure an emblem with +x\+x would be viable considering other emblems such as "your opponent can't cast creature spells" "search your deck for a card and your opponents and cast them without paying their mana cost" or "you get an 8/8 kraken at the end of each of your end steps" emblems were meant to be broken so a broken sliver emblem would fit well.
But I don't want more Sliver EDH decks running around. Those are a pain to deal with already. We don't need more
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: Munchlax on June 03, 2015, 02:47:13 PM
Slivers say "Slivers have sacrifice this permanent get effect" such as {Acidic Sliver}. This leads me to believe we might get some sort of tribal enchantment or land that's also a sliver that's not Mutavault or an artefact that's a sliver or something. I feel a walker for slivers would just push it over the edge
Title: Re: Sliver planswalker????
Post by: LinkCelestrial on June 03, 2015, 03:02:51 PM
{Domri Rade} is used in a couple of Sliver decks for his emblem. It's possible that there could be something like that if a Sliver Planeswalker was made (however unlikely).

An enchantment or something does make a lot of sense.