If multiple cards have "At the beginning of your <step>" which one takes precedence? For example, if I have {Into the Wilds} and {Elfhame Sanctuary} on my side of the field, which one goes off first? Can I still use both?
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 29, 2015, 02:54:53 AM
If multiple cards have "At the beginning of your <step>" which one takes precedence? For example, if I have {Into the Wilds} and {Elfhame Sanctuary} on my side of the field, which one goes off first? Can I still use both?
You control two triggers. You may add them to the stack as you see fit. They will resolve in the order you choose. Note that this is only possible if you have two triggers at the same time and you own both of them. If instead you had {into the wilds} and I had {viseling}, we would add them to the stack in apnap order. So you would add yours first if it's your turn, then mine, and mine would resolve first. All about who controls it so who can add it to the stack.
Quote from: particle on May 29, 2015, 03:30:57 AM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 29, 2015, 02:54:53 AM
If multiple cards have "At the beginning of your <step>" which one takes precedence? For example, if I have {Into the Wilds} and {Elfhame Sanctuary} on my side of the field, which one goes off first? Can I still use both?
You control two triggers. You may add them to the stack as you see fit. They will resolve in the order you choose. Note that this is only possible if you have two triggers at the same time and you own both of them. If instead you had {into the wilds} and I had {viseling}, we would add them to the stack in apnap order. So you would add yours first if it's your turn, then mine, and mine would resolve first. All about who controls it so who can add it to the stack.
What if I had 2 of each? Could I still trigger each of them in the order I want?
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 29, 2015, 03:37:00 AM
Quote from: particle on May 29, 2015, 03:30:57 AM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 29, 2015, 02:54:53 AM
If multiple cards have "At the beginning of your <step>" which one takes precedence? For example, if I have {Into the Wilds} and {Elfhame Sanctuary} on my side of the field, which one goes off first? Can I still use both?
You control two triggers. You may add them to the stack as you see fit. They will resolve in the order you choose. Note that this is only possible if you have two triggers at the same time and you own both of them. If instead you had {into the wilds} and I had {viseling}, we would add them to the stack in apnap order. So you would add yours first if it's your turn, then mine, and mine would resolve first. All about who controls it so who can add it to the stack.
What if I had 2 of each? Could I still trigger each of them in the order I want?
Yeah, you'd just have four triggers.
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 29, 2015, 03:41:16 AM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 29, 2015, 03:37:00 AM
Quote from: particle on May 29, 2015, 03:30:57 AM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 29, 2015, 02:54:53 AM
If multiple cards have "At the beginning of your <step>" which one takes precedence? For example, if I have {Into the Wilds} and {Elfhame Sanctuary} on my side of the field, which one goes off first? Can I still use both?
You control two triggers. You may add them to the stack as you see fit. They will resolve in the order you choose. Note that this is only possible if you have two triggers at the same time and you own both of them. If instead you had {into the wilds} and I had {viseling}, we would add them to the stack in apnap order. So you would add yours first if it's your turn, then mine, and mine would resolve first. All about who controls it so who can add it to the stack.
What if I had 2 of each? Could I still trigger each of them in the order I want?
Yeah, you'd just have four triggers.
Awesome. I didn't want to add stuff like that and only get to use one at a time. Pretty legit. Thanks
Quote from: CbStrad on May 29, 2015, 09:10:46 AM
It's why {Xenagos, God of Revels} and {Yasova Dragonclaw} are Temur's OTP, yo
Except not because Yasova's ability has to have a target when it goes on the stack, which is before Xenagos can double her power.
114.1d (http://imtgapp.com/forum/index.php?action=imtg;area=rule;number=114.1d): A triggered ability is targeted if it identifies something it will affect by using the phrase "target [something]," where the "something" is a phrase that describes an object, player, or zone. The target(s) are chosen as the ability is put on the stack; see rule 603.3d.
Since you can't opt to declare an illegal target, you have to buff Yasova before the beginning of combat step.
I'm probably way off base here, but I thought those "if you do" abilities have a two part stack thing. So the part to allow you pay stacks at the beginning, then you pay and target, then the actual effect stacks. Or you don't and the first part just comes and goes. If that were the case, you would be able to buff him before you pay and target. Is any part of this correct?
Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on June 03, 2015, 03:41:16 PM
I'm probably way off base here, but I thought those "if you do" abilities have a two part stack thing. So the part to allow you pay stacks at the beginning, then you pay and target, then the actual effect stacks. Or you don't and the first part just comes and goes. If that were the case, you would be able to buff him before you pay and target. Is any part of this correct?
While the ability does appear to have two parts, it's still all one ability. Here's how Yasova's ability works:
You move to the Beginning of combat step. Her ability triggers, you select your target, which must be legal when the ability is put on the stack, and the ability is added to the stack.
When the ability resolves, you have the choice to pay mana. If you pay the mana, the second 'part' of the ability applies and you steal the creature until end of turn. If you don't pay mana, nothing happens when the ability finished resolving.
You don't pay the mana until the ability resolves, but your target has to be chosen when the ability is put on the stack.
I bumped a discussion about {Alesha who smiles at death} (strionic resonator and Alesha) which might be what I was thinking of. I don't think this was the exact discussion I was thinking of but maybe it suffices. It sounds like the trigger goes on the stack, then you pay and target as it resolves. So you can still add triggers to the stack before having to do so and locking it in. Am I interpreting this wrong?
Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on June 03, 2015, 10:34:51 PM
I bumped a discussion about {Alesha who smiles at death} (strionic resonator and Alesha) which might be what I was thinking of. I don't think this was the exact discussion I was thinking of but maybe it suffices. It sounds like the trigger goes on the stack, then you pay and target as it resolves. So you can still add triggers to the stack before having to do so and locking it in. Am I interpreting this wrong?
You are interpreting it wrong.
In order for the trigger to go on the stack, any valid targets must be chosen. It is irrelevant whether you pay or not, as that part of the trigger is only checked on resolution.
In the case of the question regarding {Yasova Dragonclaw}, the target in this instance is "target creature with power less than Yasova's power". Since the target is chosen as the trigger goes on the stack, you cannot increase Yasova's power in response. The latest you can do so is during the first main phase.
Quote from: Oldschoolmtgnoob on June 03, 2015, 10:34:51 PM
I bumped a discussion about {Alesha who smiles at death} (strionic resonator and Alesha) which might be what I was thinking of. I don't think this was the exact discussion I was thinking of but maybe it suffices. It sounds like the trigger goes on the stack, then you pay and target as it resolves. So you can still add triggers to the stack before having to do so and locking it in. Am I interpreting this wrong?
In the case of {Alesha, who smiles at death} and {strionic resonator}, you target once the ability or copy goes on the stack, but decide to pay at resolution. Thing in that discussion was when to activate strip and wether you would pay for the copied ability.