Grixis Delver(not Kaliaas) 75 cards, 15 sideboard 1 {Island} 1 {Mountain} 1 {Swamp} 1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} 1 {Dragonskull Summit} 1 {Steam Vents} 2 {Watery Grave} 2 {Blood Crypt} 2 {Creeping Tar Pit} 4 {Polluted Delta} 4 {Bloodstained Mire} 20 lands 1 {Keranos, God of Storms} 2 {Snapcaster Mage} 2 {Tasigur, the Golden Fang} 3 {Young Pyromancer} 4 {Delver of Secrets} 12 creatures 1 {Batterskull} 1 {Death Denied} 1 {Kolaghan's Command} 2 {Inquisition of Kozilek} 2 {Thoughtseize} 2 {Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} 2 {Remand} 2 {Electrolyze} 3 {Mana Leak} 4 {Lightning Bolt} 4 {Vapor Snag} 4 {Telling Time} 28 other spells Sideboard 1 {Dismember} 1 {Relic of Progenitus} 2 {Spell Snare} 2 {Extirpate} 2 {Damnation} 2 {Æther Vial} 2 {Hurkyl's Recall} 3 {Terminate} 15 sideboard cards Notes: Threw this together after seeing Kaliaas with haste's list :) no snap casters or tarns either. Also, don't dis the {Death Denied} it's a spectacular card when people thoughtseize Keranos he's back simple as that. Also, I feel as though it makes up for snapcaster(nothing will replace him I know) but at least my creature threats can keep coming back :) |
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on May 24, 2015, 11:24:13 PM
Keranos seems pretty bad. Delver is aiming to get ahead fast and stay ahead. Keranos is a card for stabilizing or grinding out your opponent by bolting their everything and drawing more cards than them.
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on May 25, 2015, 09:12:59 AM
Well of course every game isn't over in the first four turns. But delver decks want to be far ahead at that point and using counterspells and cheap threats to keep themselves ahead until their opponent is dead. If you get to 5 mana, you have to tap out which kinda sucks and then you can try to stabilize whilst you're already ahead because you played delver on turn 1, mana leaked their tasigur and bolted their birds of paradise.
Quote from: Codester1991 on May 25, 2015, 10:40:43 AMOh I see, you're looking at this as a control deck. Have you looked into cruel control? Or grixis control without cruel ultimatum? If yo want to play grixis control, I'd recommend cutting pyromancer and delverQuote from: Kaalia with haste on May 25, 2015, 09:12:59 AM
Well of course every game isn't over in the first four turns. But delver decks want to be far ahead at that point and using counterspells and cheap threats to keep themselves ahead until their opponent is dead. If you get to 5 mana, you have to tap out which kinda sucks and then you can try to stabilize whilst you're already ahead because you played delver on turn 1, mana leaked their tasigur and bolted their birds of paradise.
Well since this is a control deck, Keranos would never come down turn 5 to be honest he wouldn't hit the board till t7 or t8 unless someone path to exiled one of my creatures and I have additional mana. That's just not how I personally would play him but everyone has their own opinion and I think he's a great card and saw a similar deck I think in the born of the gods pro tour being used on one of the highlight matches and Keranos was mainboard and wrecking shop so it's fine :)
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on May 25, 2015, 10:49:16 AMQuote from: Codester1991 on May 25, 2015, 10:40:43 AMOh I see, you're looking at this as a control deck. Have you looked into cruel control? Or grixis control without cruel ultimatum? If yo want to play grixis control, I'd recommend cutting pyromancer and delverQuote from: Kaalia with haste on May 25, 2015, 09:12:59 AM
Well of course every game isn't over in the first four turns. But delver decks want to be far ahead at that point and using counterspells and cheap threats to keep themselves ahead until their opponent is dead. If you get to 5 mana, you have to tap out which kinda sucks and then you can try to stabilize whilst you're already ahead because you played delver on turn 1, mana leaked their tasigur and bolted their birds of paradise.
Well since this is a control deck, Keranos would never come down turn 5 to be honest he wouldn't hit the board till t7 or t8 unless someone path to exiled one of my creatures and I have additional mana. That's just not how I personally would play him but everyone has their own opinion and I think he's a great card and saw a similar deck I think in the born of the gods pro tour being used on one of the highlight matches and Keranos was mainboard and wrecking shop so it's fine :)