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Title: Seizing rulings?
Post by: Yawgmoth85 on May 22, 2015, 03:55:33 PM
When gaining control of a planeswalker using {word of seizing}, {confiscate}; if let's say {Xenagos the reveler} and his +ability has been activated three times since entering the battlefield, then I {word of seizing} Xenagos does it come under my control retaining the loyalty tokens from it's previous controller, or does the loyalty reset to the base amount? I was under the impression the permenant leaves the battlefield and the returns under my control, and wiping all counters/tokens placed on the permenant
Title: Re: Seizing rulings?
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 22, 2015, 03:58:40 PM
It doesn't leave the battlefield, just switches controllers. It'll be in the same state as it was before you grabbed it except that you control it.
Title: Re: Seizing rulings?
Post by: Avodroc13 on May 22, 2015, 04:01:57 PM
To add on to this, the planeswalker that becomes a creature until end of turn, can it be siezed then {cloudshift}ed to make it stay under your control once you end turn?
Title: Re: Seizing rulings?
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 22, 2015, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 22, 2015, 04:01:57 PM
To add on to this, the planeswalker that becomes a creature until end of turn, can it be siezed then {cloudshift}ed to make it stay under your control once you end turn?

Assuming you have an instant speed {Act of Treason} ability, yes. That will reset its counters. However {Bazaar Trader} won't.
Title: Re: Seizing rulings?
Post by: Avodroc13 on May 22, 2015, 05:51:26 PM
So, {Quicken}, {Act of Treason}, {Cloudshift}?
Title: Re: Seizing rulings?
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 22, 2015, 06:06:11 PM
Correct. {Word of Seizing} + {Cloudshift} works too. The reason it needs to be instant is that Planeswalkers that become creatures are only creatures during their controllers turns. {Gideon Jura} and {Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker} for reference.
Title: Re: Seizing rulings?
Post by: Avodroc13 on May 22, 2015, 06:43:00 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 22, 2015, 06:06:11 PM
Correct. {Word of Seizing} + {Cloudshift} works too. The reason it needs to be instant is that Planeswalkers that become creatures are only creatures during their controllers turns. {Gideon Jura} and {Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker} for reference.

Time to make a 'Murica deck. :o
Title: Re: Seizing rulings?
Post by: Double-O-Scotch on May 23, 2015, 06:28:43 PM
{act of aggression}, {ray of command} for instant speed grab