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Title: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Kaalia with haste on May 22, 2015, 09:35:51 AM
He's kinda cool as a temp deck for 1v1. Multiplayer he's pretty underwhelming
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:37:28 AM
True, because I'm sure he'd die quickly a lot. Does anyone have any good commander ideas? Since i haven't played to many EDH games.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: LinkToThePast on May 22, 2015, 10:21:12 AM
{Krenko, Mob Boss} & {Kiki Jiki, Mirror Breaker} are my favorite commanders
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: General Kiwi on May 22, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
Play {kaalia of the vast} you will have a blast yet have no friends
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: rarehuntertay on May 22, 2015, 11:55:12 AM
 {Nekusar, the Mindrazer}
Everyone will love you for awhile... Then the love turns to hate...
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Kaylesh on May 22, 2015, 02:15:40 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on May 22, 2015, 02:13:41 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 22, 2015, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on May 22, 2015, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 22, 2015, 01:04:51 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on May 22, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
{Scion of the Ur-Dragon}, especially if you can get {Mirror Gallery} easily

what's the connection?
{Teneb, the Harvester}

Oh, I was thinking {Vorosh, The Hunter} and then {Skittles, The Blight Dragon}
Nope. Army of dragons, mon frére. Scion buries, Teneb digs back up. Multiplayer wins forever until someone catches on early enough
Still a bit confused why {mirror gallery}.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Kaylesh on May 22, 2015, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on May 22, 2015, 02:21:23 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 22, 2015, 02:15:40 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on May 22, 2015, 02:13:41 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 22, 2015, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on May 22, 2015, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 22, 2015, 01:04:51 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on May 22, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
{Scion of the Ur-Dragon}, especially if you can get {Mirror Gallery} easily

what's the connection?
{Teneb, the Harvester}

Oh, I was thinking {Vorosh, The Hunter} and then {Skittles, The Blight Dragon}
Nope. Army of dragons, mon frére. Scion buries, Teneb digs back up. Multiplayer wins forever until someone catches on early enough
Still a bit confused why {mirror gallery}.
Scion becomes a copy and Teneb is legendary. Here's the trick:

1) Scion eats Teneb and becomes Teneb
2) Scion/eb swings. Reanimate
3) Real Teneb and Scion/eb have legend rule troubles unless Gallery is on the board
Doh, of course. Scion becomes a copy... Tx
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 22, 2015, 03:57:17 PM
If you like U/W {Daxos of Meletis} is very fun. Put in double strike and evasiveness. Win.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Spencer Addington on May 22, 2015, 05:17:03 PM
So you don't want to trade him?
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
I have been experimenting with Muzzio lately and it seems fun and easy to run
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 23, 2015, 12:26:31 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
I have been experimenting with Muzzio lately and it seems fun and easy to run

{Muzzio, Grand Arcitect} is great.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 23, 2015, 12:26:31 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
I have been experimenting with Muzzio lately and it seems fun and easy to run

{Muzzio, Grand Arcitect} is great.
He doesn't attract hate. Blue is a strong colour. Artifacts are hella good. Play muzzio
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 23, 2015, 01:01:11 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 23, 2015, 12:26:31 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
I have been experimenting with Muzzio lately and it seems fun and easy to run

{Muzzio, Grand Arcitect} is great.
He doesn't attract hate. Blue is a strong colour. Artifacts are hella good. Play muzzio

He's one if my best decks. 10/10 would recommend.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 03:37:39 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 23, 2015, 12:26:31 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
I have been experimenting with Muzzio lately and it seems fun and easy to run

{Muzzio, Grand Arcitect} is great.
He doesn't attract hate. Blue is a strong colour. Artifacts are hella good. Play muzzio
Why would {muzzio, visionary artificer} NOT attract hate? I see a creature that says: {3}{U}, pull out evil wincon. {blightsteel colossus} is an artifact too, you know.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 11:09:15 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 03:37:39 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 23, 2015, 12:26:31 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
I have been experimenting with Muzzio lately and it seems fun and easy to run

{Muzzio, Grand Arcitect} is great.
He doesn't attract hate. Blue is a strong colour. Artifacts are hella good. Play muzzio
Why would {muzzio, visionary artificer} NOT attract hate? I see a creature that says: {3}{U}, pull out evil wincon. {blightsteel colossus} is an artifact too, you know.
Yes but people don't see him as as much ofs threat because he does not directly impact any of the opponents when he hits play like say {Memnarch} or {Kaalia of the vast} would he's a different type of powerful and the opponents will usually choose to ignore you for a little while.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 11:24:32 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 11:09:15 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 03:37:39 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 23, 2015, 12:26:31 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
I have been experimenting with Muzzio lately and it seems fun and easy to run

{Muzzio, Grand Arcitect} is great.
He doesn't attract hate. Blue is a strong colour. Artifacts are hella good. Play muzzio
Why would {muzzio, visionary artificer} NOT attract hate? I see a creature that says: {3}{U}, pull out evil wincon. {blightsteel colossus} is an artifact too, you know.
Yes but people don't see him as as much ofs threat because he does not directly impact any of the opponents when he hits play like say {Memnarch} or {Kaalia of the vast} would he's a different type of powerful and the opponents will usually choose to ignore you for a little while.
Ah, direct threat vs indirect threat. Now it becomes obvious I never played any proper (read big) EDH games. Mostly limited to 3 players due to not enough friends to play with.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on May 23, 2015, 12:11:53 PM
{Jalira, Master Polymorphist} is another example of a "muzio" type of commander.. . Not aN immediate threat but enough of a threat when a deck is built around
I've seen a modern deck built around her here on the forum that will put down a {blightsteel colossus} for a token every time, since the colossus is the only nonlegendary. I would love to pull that off in EDH, but I think her being monoblue would limit the list of legendary critters you can put in it.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: griffin131 on May 23, 2015, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 03:37:39 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 23, 2015, 12:26:31 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
I have been experimenting with Muzzio lately and it seems fun and easy to run

{Muzzio, Grand Arcitect} is great.
He doesn't attract hate. Blue is a strong colour. Artifacts are hella good. Play muzzio
Why would {muzzio, visionary artificer} NOT attract hate? I see a creature that says: {3}{U}, pull out evil wincon. {blightsteel colossus} is an artifact too, you know.
Visionary Artificer and Grand Architect are completely different cards...
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 03:09:31 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on May 23, 2015, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 03:37:39 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 23, 2015, 12:26:31 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
I have been experimenting with Muzzio lately and it seems fun and easy to run

{Muzzio, Grand Arcitect} is great.
He doesn't attract hate. Blue is a strong colour. Artifacts are hella good. Play muzzio
Why would {muzzio, visionary artificer} NOT attract hate? I see a creature that says: {3}{U}, pull out evil wincon. {blightsteel colossus} is an artifact too, you know.
Visionary Artificer and Grand Architect are completely different cards...
Well, {grand architect} is not a legendary creature. Since we were talking commanders I assumed it had to be visionary instead of grand. (Did a search on Muzzio to find her name)
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: griffin131 on May 23, 2015, 03:11:37 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 03:09:31 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on May 23, 2015, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 03:37:39 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 23, 2015, 12:26:31 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
I have been experimenting with Muzzio lately and it seems fun and easy to run

{Muzzio, Grand Arcitect} is great.
He doesn't attract hate. Blue is a strong colour. Artifacts are hella good. Play muzzio
Why would {muzzio, visionary artificer} NOT attract hate? I see a creature that says: {3}{U}, pull out evil wincon. {blightsteel colossus} is an artifact too, you know.
Visionary Artificer and Grand Architect are completely different cards...
Well, {grand architect} is not a legendary creature. Since we were talking commanders I assumed it had to be visionary instead of grand. (Did a search on Muzzio to find her name)
... That's fair. I didn't even notice that the first link wasn't a Muzzio - sorry if it seemed like I jumped on you.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 03:41:56 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on May 23, 2015, 03:11:37 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 03:09:31 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on May 23, 2015, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 23, 2015, 03:37:39 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:31:01 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 23, 2015, 12:26:31 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 23, 2015, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Esper on May 22, 2015, 09:32:23 AM
Would he make a good Commander? Because i want to build a deck around him.
I have been experimenting with Muzzio lately and it seems fun and easy to run

{Muzzio, Grand Arcitect} is great.
He doesn't attract hate. Blue is a strong colour. Artifacts are hella good. Play muzzio
Why would {muzzio, visionary artificer} NOT attract hate? I see a creature that says: {3}{U}, pull out evil wincon. {blightsteel colossus} is an artifact too, you know.
Visionary Artificer and Grand Architect are completely different cards...
Well, {grand architect} is not a legendary creature. Since we were talking commanders I assumed it had to be visionary instead of grand. (Did a search on Muzzio to find her name)
... That's fair. I didn't even notice that the first link wasn't a Muzzio - sorry if it seemed like I jumped on you.
NP man. I didn't feel jumped really. And you are totally right, two really different cards. Only thing they have in common is they do something with artifacts and are both blue.
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Eivory on May 23, 2015, 10:08:52 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 22, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
Quote from: General Kiwi on May 22, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
Play {kaalia of the vast} you will have a blast yet have no friends


My first commander deck


For fun, build a deck around a god ;)
I built {Athreos, God of Passage} using shadowborn apostles...
Thats gross...
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Kaylesh on May 24, 2015, 06:59:55 AM
Quote from: Eivory on May 23, 2015, 10:08:52 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 22, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
Quote from: General Kiwi on May 22, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
Play {kaalia of the vast} you will have a blast yet have no friends


My first commander deck


For fun, build a deck around a god ;)
I built {Athreos, God of Passage} using shadowborn apostles...
Thats gross...
Totally missed that post. So {shadowborn apostles} rules text overrules the format's singleton rules? Getting to think about some rat commander..
Title: Re: Geist of Saint Traft
Post by: Kaalia with haste on May 24, 2015, 10:35:47 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on May 24, 2015, 06:59:55 AM
Quote from: Eivory on May 23, 2015, 10:08:52 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on May 22, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
Quote from: General Kiwi on May 22, 2015, 11:33:16 AM
Play {kaalia of the vast} you will have a blast yet have no friends


My first commander deck


For fun, build a deck around a god ;)
I built {Athreos, God of Passage} using shadowborn apostles...
Thats gross...
Totally missed that post. So {shadowborn apostles} rules text overrules the format's singleton rules? Getting to think about some rat commander..
{marrow gnawer}