Do It. I Dare You. (Kaho)
1 {Kaho, Minamo Historian}
1 {Faerie Conclave}
1 {Lonely Sandbar}
32 {Island}
1 {Minamo, School at Water's Edge}
1 {Coral Atoll}
1 {Halimar Depths}
1 {Soldevi Excavations}
38 lands
1 {Wall of Frost}
1 {Talrand, Sky Summoner}
1 {Fog Bank}
1 {Venser, Shaper Savant}
1 {Palinchron}
1 {Ætherling}
1 {Elite Arcanist}
1 {Meloku the Clouded Mirror}
1 {Deadeye Navigator}
1 {Guard Gomazoa}
10 creatures
1 {Muddle the Mixture}
1 {Counterspell}
1 {Jace, Architect of Thought}
1 {Supplant Form}
1 {Cancel}
1 {Curfew}
1 {Learn from the Past}
1 {Rapid Hybridization}
1 {Sunder}
1 {Time Stop}
1 {Mana Drain}
1 {Pulse of the Grid}
1 {Heartstone}
1 {Cackling Counterpart}
1 {Oona's Grace}
1 {Long-Term Plans}
1 {Boomerang}
1 {Leyline of Anticipation}
1 {Peel from Reality}
1 {Nullify}
1 {Call to Heel}
1 {Twincast}
1 {Cyclonic Rift}
1 {Pongify}
1 {Training Grounds}
1 {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}
1 {Evacuation}
1 {Isochron Scepter}
1 {Elixir of Immortality}
1 {Voyage's End}
1 {Snap}
1 {Reality Shift}
1 {Desertion}
1 {Fascination}
1 {Negate}
1 {High Tide}
1 {Spelljack}
1 {Dissolve}
1 {Essence Scatter}
1 {Repulse}
1 {Gather Specimens}
1 {Redirect}
1 {Unsummon}
1 {Dissipate}
1 {Mystical Tutor}
1 {Last Word}
1 {Thousand-Year Elixir}
1 {Spin into Myth}
1 {Æther Tradewinds}
1 {Snapback}
1 {Disdainful Stroke}
51 other spells
Sideboard
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{Kaho, Minamo Historian}: It was love at first sight. I'm not sure why this isn't more popular.
{Faerie Conclave}: Because I can.
{Lonely Sandbar}: The land you want lategame.
{Island}: 10/10
{Minamo, School at Water's Edge}: Extra value out of my commander. I have a few other legendaries but they're not as relevant.
{Coral Atoll}: Synergies with untap land effects and...yeah.
{Halimar Depths}: Who doesn't like ghetto scry? Synergies with {Long Term Plans}
{Soldevi Excavations}: Synergies with untap effects and scry. Kinda.
38 lands
{Wall of Frost}: Souly a defensive card.
{Talrand, Sky Summoner}: I have a lot of instants and a few sorceries. A win con.
{Fog Bank}: Block all the things!
{Venser, Shaper Savant}: Synergies with my multitude of bounce effects.
{Palinchron}: For the combo. Keep reading.
{Ætherling}: A win con and semi-reliable blocker. "Combos" with {Sunder} and {Evacuation}.
{Elite Arcanist}: So many nasty locks with this guy. From {Counterspell} to {Timestop}.
{Meloku the Clouded Mirror}: I figured this would be pretty playable.
{Deadeye Navigator}: Refuel Kaho, counter stuff with Venser. Save stuff. Yeah.
{Guard Gomazoa}: Come at me bro.
10 creatures
Intimidators: These are cards to grab with Kaho to make your opponent think twice about what they're doing. This is deck of mind games, and these are the powerhouses.
{Gather Specimens}: Go ahead, try to combo. I dare you. Worse case scenario it's a better {Control Magic}.
{Redirect}: That {Cruel Ultimatum} isn't going your way. You're infinite mana-ing a {Fireball}? Return to sender.
{Spelljack}: Some epic intimidation when it's in Kaho's arsenal. They're not likely to cast anything important when they see this.
{Desertion}: A worse {Spelljack}. Still impressive.
{Evacuation}: This could be in the answers section but it's here instead.
{Time Stop}: You get no turn. Fantastic intimidation and amazing on {Elite Arcanist}.
{Sunder}: I wanted to combo with this. I really did.
{Supplant Form}: Send back that {Blightsteel} and get one for yourself.
8 Intimidators
Utility: the cards that get stuff done. Or just wouldn't fit anywhere else.
{Thousand-Year Elixir}: Extra value out of Kaho and {Elite Arcanist}.
{Isochron Scepter}: There are so many good picks for this, it's silly.
{Elixir of Immortality}: This serves dual purposes as a lifesaver and a card reseter. Allowing me to put cards back in my library and tutor them again.
{Training Grounds}: MVP. Seriously. {Dissolve} for {1}?
{Cyclonic Rift}: A blue EDH staple.
{Twincast}: So many options. I was going to do the {Traumatize} + {Twincast} + {Psychic Spiral} combo but I didn't make room.
{Leyline of Anticipation}: If this works like I think, I can instant speed Kaho from the command zone and tutor what I need for whatever's going on. Even if not from the command zone, Kaho spends a lot of time in my hand.
{Oona's Grace}: Card advantage.
{Cackling Counterpart}: Extra {Elite Arcanist}? Can be tutored and goes straight to the GY for flash back.
{Pulse of the Grid}: Card advantage! Plus it goes back to my hand if I tutor cast it.
{Heartstone}: {Training Grounds} is so powerful this worse version got in.
{Learn from the Past}: Anti-mill, reset to re-tutor and I draw a card. Not bad.
{Muddle the Mixture}: Is it a tutor? Is it a counter? Yes.
13 Utility
Bouncers: 9/10 times you're going to want to grab one of these with Kaho so it can save itself and reset for more spells.
{Snapback}: The alternate cost is epic.
{Æther Tradewinds}: Tradewinds? I get the better deal.
{Repulse}: And draw.
{Unsummon}: The cheap one.
{Voyage's End}: The Scry one.
{Snap}: The "free" one.
{Call to Heel}: The replaces self one.
{Peel from Reality}: The two for one.
{Boomerang}: The boomerang. YEAH!
{Curfew}: Why is this not a staple? Go home, it's past your bedtime.
10 Bouncers
Counters: I'm playing blue. C'mon.
{Disdainful Stroke}: Works often.
{Last Word}: My word is final.
{Dissipate}: Anti-Recursion.
{Dissolve}: Scry. Woot.
{Essence Scatter}: Because I'm too young for {Remove Soul}.
{Negate}: Nope.
{Nullify}: Uh uh.
{Mana Drain}: The amount of respect I have for the Mage that made this spell. I'm going to stop you /and/ take your mana. Deal with it.
{Cancel}: Nuuuuuu! D: Also, who the hell uses {Cancel}? I want an alt art of Jace with his hand up like "stop" and the flavour text "No." In big letters.
{Counterspell}: No.
10 Counters
Answers: If something manages to get past my iron clad defences, here are the last resorts.
{Spin into Myth}: Tuck it. (Indestructibles, I know you can't tuck commanders anymore.)
{Reality Shift}: Hopefully you don't manifest something worse.
{Pongify}: With my bounce effects this is quickly a kill spell.
{Rapid Hybridization}: So is this.
4 Answers
Planeswalkers: Cause I can.
{Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}: Shut down things, draw cards, infinite hand Recursion. Woot.
{Jace, Architect of Thought}: Sponge damage. Mini {Fact or Fiction}. Steal and tutor.
2 Planeswalkers
The combo. Yeah, just one.
{Mystical Tutor}
{High Tide}
{Fascination}
{Long-Term Plans}
Fetch {Mystical Tutor}, {High Tide} and {Long-Term Plans}.
{Long-Term Plans} for {Palinchron}. {Mystical Tutor} for {Fascination}. Cast {High Tide}, cast {Palinchron}, repeat, infinite mana {Fascination}.
Curiosity killed...everyone.
Quote from: Taysby on May 19, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
You need some fast ramp like {mana vault} {grim mononlith}
Also, if kaho doesn't have haste, she'll be a waste of effort because someone will just hit her with a killspell. so {lightning greaves} {swiftfoot boots}
Fast ramp doesn't help much, I need coloured mana. I'm debating the {Grim Monolith} combo, but otherwise it's not worth the slot. I'd rather be running {Astral Cornucopia} or something because it gives me coloured and has no draw backs. And even then I'm skeptical.
Yes I need {Swiftfoot Boots}. {Lightning Greaves} would give me an awkward situation where I need to bounce Kaho but can't, so I'm leaning away from that. I do have {Thousand-Year Elixir} for hasty activations. But I agree that it's not enough.
Love Fascination... Should have had flavor text that says "Ooooo shiny!"""
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 19, 2015, 02:16:18 PM
Quote from: Taysby on May 19, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
You need some fast ramp like {mana vault} {grim mononlith}
Also, if kaho doesn't have haste, she'll be a waste of effort because someone will just hit her with a killspell. so {lightning greaves} {swiftfoot boots}
Fast ramp doesn't help much, I need coloured mana. I'm debating the {Grim Monolith} combo, but otherwise it's not worth the slot. I'd rather be running {Astral Cornucopia} or something because it gives me coloured and has no draw backs. And even then I'm skeptical.
Yes I need {Swiftfoot Boots}. {Lightning Greaves} would give me an awkward situation where I need to bounce Kaho but can't, so I'm leaning away from that. I do have {Thousand-Year Elixir} for hasty activations. But I agree that it's not enough.
Did I just read the words "{Astral Cornucopia}" and "no drawbacks" in the same sentence? Please tell me I didn't... please.... :P
But in all seriousness, play {Gilded Lotus} (pretty much strictly better here, or anywhere), or something. Anything. Just not that. SO BAD.
{Gilded Lotus} is good. I'll add that. I'm thinking {Gauntlet of Power} for sure and maybe {Sky Diamond} and {Darksteel Ingot}. {Caged Sun} as well.
{Riptide Laboratory} For your commander. Seems amazing
Quote from: JordanCirk on May 19, 2015, 05:43:27 PM
{Riptide Laboratory} For your commander. Seems amazing
Beautiful. Thank you. I'm compiling a list of edits and will update soon.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 19, 2015, 05:30:03 PM
{Gilded Lotus} is good. I'll add that. I'm thinking {Gauntlet of Power} for sure and maybe {Sky Diamond} and {Darksteel Ingot}. {Caged Sun} as well.
Anything besides Cornucopia :D
Be careful with Gauntlet, lots of people like blue. Caged Sun is nice, if more expensive.
Deadeye+ palinchron is a second infinite mana combo....
The problem with all that expensive ramp is that it really doesn't ramp you when you need it. You need to ramp in the early game, not on turn 5.
Quote from: blackychan1 on May 19, 2015, 08:31:17 PM
Deadeye+ palinchron is a second infinite mana combo....
Somebody was saying there's an errata text that says from hand. Now I can't find it.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 19, 2015, 11:16:33 PM
Quote from: blackychan1 on May 19, 2015, 08:31:17 PM
Deadeye+ palinchron is a second infinite mana combo....
Somebody was saying there's an errata text that says from hand. Now I can't find it.
There isn't
Quote from: Taysby on May 19, 2015, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on May 19, 2015, 08:34:27 PM
The problem with all that expensive ramp is that it really doesn't ramp you when you need it. You need to ramp in the early game, not on turn 5.
Exactly. You want the fast ramp. Not {mana crypt} though. That is not good when you are playing control.
What do I need ramp for though? I mean really not much. And all the mana doublers combo with {Palichron}.
Quote from: Taysby on May 20, 2015, 01:00:56 PM
I assure you. Being able to play your commander t2 is always a good thing.
Only ramp that could do that is {sol ring} I think..
Indeed. So {Sol Ring}, {Sky Diamond}, {Gilded Lotus} and {Caged Sun}. {Caged Sun} more for the combo wombo. I'll work on the {Grim Monolith} combo and probably dig up some more infinite mana win cons.
Quote from: Taysby on May 20, 2015, 02:03:39 PM
{mana vault}
Even just leaving {grim monolith} mana up when you cast kaho is a good thing.
{Mana Vault} doesn't work with {Power Artifact}. Unless I'm mistaken. I think the fetch is,
{Long-Term Plans}, {Mystic Tutor}, whatever
{Long-Term Plans} a monolith, {Mystic Tutor} a {Muddle the Mixture}, transmute into {Power Artifact}, profit.
Quote from: Taysby on May 20, 2015, 04:23:11 PM
That was in reply to a way to play your commander t2. But it does give infinite mana, just during your upkeep. Do not underestimate fast ramp.
It's not an activated ability, it's triggered. No go.