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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Avodroc13 on May 13, 2015, 11:10:23 AM

Title: tapped or untapped
Post by: Avodroc13 on May 13, 2015, 11:10:23 AM
{Amulet of Vigor} + {Orb of Dreams}.

Which would take precedence?
Title: Re: tapped or untapped
Post by: Kaylesh on May 13, 2015, 11:35:17 AM
The devil's in the wording.
The rules on {amulet of vigor} state that whenever a permanent enters tapped, you untap it. Triggered ability.
{Orb of dreams} says all permanents enter tapped. So for each permanent you control, Amulet triggers and you may untap it.
Title: Re: tapped or untapped
Post by: Avodroc13 on May 13, 2015, 12:06:07 PM
So everything would enter on my side, technically untapped but everything on my opponent's side would still enter tapped?

Artifact decks, man. Gotta love em.
Title: Re: tapped or untapped
Post by: Chargingswadger on May 13, 2015, 12:17:34 PM
No, they would enter tapped and THEN untap.
Title: Re: tapped or untapped
Post by: Kaylesh on May 13, 2015, 12:31:11 PM
Quote from: Chargingswadger on May 13, 2015, 12:17:34 PM
No, they would enter tapped and THEN untap.
That's totally right. Important because you might get inspiration or other untap triggers.
Title: Re: tapped or untapped
Post by: Avodroc13 on May 13, 2015, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: Chargingswadger on May 13, 2015, 12:17:34 PM
No, they would enter tapped and THEN untap.

Would the ability Inspired trigger due to them untapping?
Title: Re: tapped or untapped
Post by: Kaylesh on May 13, 2015, 01:36:55 PM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 13, 2015, 12:37:51 PM
Quote from: Chargingswadger on May 13, 2015, 12:17:34 PM
No, they would enter tapped and THEN untap.

Would the ability Inspired trigger due to them untapping?
Yeah. They enter the battlefield, then untap, so inspired would trigger.