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Magic (The Gathering) => Rules => Topic started by: Munchlax on May 11, 2015, 09:25:02 PM

Title: Miracle
Post by: Munchlax on May 11, 2015, 09:25:02 PM
so let's say someone draws a {Temporal Mastery} off of {Rhystic Study} and they drew it on my card as the first card they drew. Can they cast it right then for its miracle cost?
Title: Re: Miracle
Post by: Rass on May 11, 2015, 09:26:23 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Miracle
Post by: Dsx Cherno on May 11, 2015, 09:43:43 PM
As long as it's the first card you drew this turn
Title: Re: Miracle
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on May 12, 2015, 01:38:42 AM
Thats why in legacy you see people activating their top on their opponents turn or casting a brainstorm to miracle a terminus or entreat the angels. It doesnt matter whose turn it is, as long as it is the first you drew on that turn you get the miracle trigger.
Title: Re: Miracle
Post by: Avodroc13 on May 12, 2015, 01:56:42 AM
So if my opponent uses {Fascination}'s first choice and makes us each draw 10 cards, and the first I draw is {Reforge the Soul}, can I use {Quicken} and play it for its miracle cost?
Title: Re: Miracle
Post by: Remillo on May 12, 2015, 02:28:40 AM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 12, 2015, 01:56:42 AM
So if my opponent uses {Fascination}'s first choice and makes us each draw 10 cards, and the first I draw is {Reforge the Soul}, can I use {Quicken} and play it for its miracle cost?

You don't even need Quicken!  Miracle bypasses the normal timing restrictions and lets you cast it right there.  However, do be aware that the Fascination most resolve completely before you can resolve your Miracle trigger and cast the spell.
Title: Re: Miracle
Post by: Avodroc13 on May 12, 2015, 03:13:31 AM
Quote from: Remillo on May 12, 2015, 02:28:40 AM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 12, 2015, 01:56:42 AM
So if my opponent uses {Fascination}'s first choice and makes us each draw 10 cards, and the first I draw is {Reforge the Soul}, can I use {Quicken} and play it for its miracle cost?

You don't even need Quicken!  Miracle bypasses the normal timing restrictions and lets you cast it right there.  However, do be aware that the Fascination most resolve completely before you can resolve your Miracle trigger and cast the spell.

If I cast the miracle, and fascination resolves, can my opponent cast a counterspell from the cards he draws?
Title: Re: Miracle
Post by: Kaylesh on May 12, 2015, 04:33:04 AM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 12, 2015, 03:13:31 AM
Quote from: Remillo on May 12, 2015, 02:28:40 AM
Quote from: Avodroc13 on May 12, 2015, 01:56:42 AM
So if my opponent uses {Fascination}'s first choice and makes us each draw 10 cards, and the first I draw is {Reforge the Soul}, can I use {Quicken} and play it for its miracle cost?

You don't even need Quicken!  Miracle bypasses the normal timing restrictions and lets you cast it right there.  However, do be aware that the Fascination most resolve completely before you can resolve your Miracle trigger and cast the spell.

If I cast the miracle, and fascination resolves, can my opponent cast a counterspell from the cards he draws?
Yup. {fascination} resolves, so all players draw cards. {reforge the soul} is cast afterwards, or at least is a spell on the stack at that point. Before it starts resolving, players get priority.
(Can somebody clarify the exact chain of events, since you don't have priority while a spell is resolving, yet you draw one card at the time, but as you add them to your hand they will be considered indistinguishable (hidden information). Your opponents are required to verify game state, so how do you announce the first card you drew is a miracle card?)
Title: Re: Miracle
Post by: Mr_Fahrenheit on May 12, 2015, 05:27:10 AM
You reveal it as you draw it, before you meld it with the rest of your hand and before you draw another card. It is still considered in your hand at this point, all you have done is put the miracle trigger on the stack, which can be responded too like any other trigger that is put on the stack. Once the miracle trigger resolves and you regain priority is the time to cast the miracle spell.
Title: Re: Miracle
Post by: Kaylesh on May 12, 2015, 05:43:07 AM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on May 12, 2015, 05:27:10 AM
You reveal it as you draw it, before you meld it with the rest of your hand and before you draw another card. It is still considered in your hand at this point, all you have done is put the miracle trigger on the stack, which can be responded too like any other trigger that is put on the stack. Once the miracle trigger resolves and you regain priority is the time to cast the miracle spell.
Ah, thanks.