Hey quick question. If I wanted to {fling} a buffed up {kiln fiend}, would that count as an extra +3/+0?
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on April 22, 2012, 02:43:40 PM
Hey quick question. If I wanted to {fling} a buffed up {kiln fiend}, would that count as an extra +3/+0?
Nope. You sacrifice the fiend as part of the cost of the spell. This all happens right when you cast it, so little Kilny is too dead to see the spell cast. 💀😢
It's a shame, everytime I use this in one of my decks a single tear rolls down my cheek.
Damn. That would be so cool though. Thanks for the quick response though. I am building a "fling" deck. Should be alot of fun. Any suggestions? It's gunna be white and red with some archer type creatures for taking down opponents attacking creatures.
{Immolating Souleater} FTW. 👍
Top heavy creatures are good, {Lightning Elemental} types. {Ball lightning}.
Thanks for the advice. I was gunna make the centerpiece {brion stoutarm} and put in some elementals like you said. Plus some gobbys that sac for good damage like those {mudbutton torchrunners} I've been trying to find a use for. Lol. 😝😝
I use {flings} and {kiln fiends} in a B/R deck with {deaths shadow} and phyrexian mana.
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on April 23, 2012, 07:09:38 AM
I use {flings} and {kiln fiends} in a B/R deck with {deaths shadow} and phyrexian mana.
Daniel hates that deck, apparently from what I've heard. I love getting out some {spark elemental}s, swingin' and flingin'!
Yea it killed the {moltensteel dragon} deck a couple of times
Now with {deaths shadow}, since Jester said that sacing and flinging was instantaneous, would deaths shadow return to a 13/13 bc the static ability would wear off? Or is that the power based on my life when I fling?
Since it doesnt go on the stack it gets
-x/-x as soon as it hits the battlefield and thus there is no time to respond with anything.
Edit: I missread but it uses whatever power it had when sacrificed i believe.
The static ability will change it while it's in play. There's no timing associated with it, when it's in play it gets -x/-x. {Fling} checks the power right before it got sac'ed.
Got it, so deaths shadow is only good with lower life? Last resort fling?
I guess you can see it that way. Or let a souleater munch on you, fling, then fling {DEATH!!!!}
Quote from: Fenster on April 23, 2012, 02:05:57 PM
I guess you can see it that way. Or let a souleater munch on you, fling, then fling {DEATH!!!!}
Actually, since you mention it, the {Death} side of Life//Death would be good with {Death's Shadow}. 💀
Quote from: BlackJester on April 23, 2012, 02:12:09 PM
Quote from: Fenster on April 23, 2012, 02:05:57 PM
I guess you can see it that way. Or let a souleater munch on you, fling, then fling {DEATH!!!!}
Actually, since you mention it, the {Death} side of Life//Death would be good with {Death's Shadow}. 💀
Thats actually pretty wicked. Especially under {Fling} circumstances...
Let's no forget {Postmorten Lunge} either.
Or {act of treason}. What that's yours, oh sorry. Here CATCH!
Quote from: Imdowd80 on April 23, 2012, 03:59:51 PM
Or {act of treason}. What that's yours, oh sorry. Here CATCH!
Hah, the face of that opponent will be worth the mana ^^
{Act of Treason} is a great hoser vs {Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite}.
Quote from: Fenster on April 23, 2012, 04:23:47 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on April 23, 2012, 03:59:51 PM
Or {act of treason}. What that's yours, oh sorry. Here CATCH!
Hah, the face of that opponent will be worth the mana ^^
Did this with an opponent's {ghoultree} in a draft last week. He was not happy.
Haha I was going to use {act of treason} with {fatal frenzy}s in it. I would wonder though. If I gain control of the creature with the treason, then fatal frenzy it, would the opponent then have to sacrifice it at his end step?
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on April 24, 2012, 12:00:29 AM
Haha I was going to use {act of treason} with {fatal frenzy}s in it. I would wonder though. If I gain control of the creature with the treason, then fatal frenzy it, would the opponent then have to sacrifice it at his end step?
End of turn step comes before effects end at the end of end. You'll still control it when the {Fatal Frenzy} trigger stacks.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 24, 2012, 12:19:41 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on April 24, 2012, 12:00:29 AM
Haha I was going to use {act of treason} with {fatal frenzy}s in it. I would wonder though. If I gain control of the creature with the treason, then fatal frenzy it, would the opponent then have to sacrifice it at his end step?
End of turn step comes before effects end at the end of end. You'll still control it when the {Fatal Frenzy} trigger stacks.
I got that part. But my questions is since that fatal frenzy says "sacrifice creature at the beginning of the next end step.", would that mean that my turn ends, he does his turn without the effects of the fatal frenzy bc they wore off, but then he now needs to sacrifice it bc the fatal frenzy told it to?
The first end step to happen. So in this case, yours.
Oh got it. That's cool though. Great way to get rid of some big beefy guys.