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Title: Villainous wealth
Post by: redwolv on May 03, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
must the cards exiled by {villainous wealth} be cast right then? I ask cause of cards like {outpost seige} say you only have till EoT. But VW does not give a time frame.

There are probably better examples then seige but it was the first one to come to mind.
Title: Re: Villainous wealth
Post by: Kaylesh on May 03, 2015, 03:27:42 PM
From gatherer rulings:
You cast the cards one at a time as Villainous Wealth is resolving, choosing modes, targets, and so on. The last card you cast will be the first one to resolve. Ignore timing restrictions based on the cards' types. Other timing restrictions, such as "Cast [this card] only during combat," must be followed.
Title: Re: Villainous wealth
Post by: griffin131 on May 03, 2015, 04:43:08 PM
Quote from: redwolv on May 03, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
must the cards exiled by {villainous wealth} be cast right then? I ask cause of cards like {outpost seige} say you only have till EoT. But VW does not give a time frame.

There are probably better examples then seige but it was the first one to come to mind.
Siege says that because it sticks around.
Wealth only gives you permission to cast while it's resolving - after it's done resolving there's nothing allowing you to cast those spells.
Title: Re: Villainous wealth
Post by: Oldschoolmtgnoob on May 04, 2015, 12:53:10 AM
Ooo darn...I've been playing villainous wealth oh so wrong
Title: Re: Villainous wealth
Post by: MuggyWuggy on May 05, 2015, 01:29:23 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on May 03, 2015, 04:43:08 PM
Quote from: redwolv on May 03, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
must the cards exiled by {villainous wealth} be cast right then? I ask cause of cards like {outpost seige} say you only have till EoT. But VW does not give a time frame.

There are probably better examples then seige but it was the first one to come to mind.
Siege says that because it sticks around.
Wealth only gives you permission to cast while it's resolving - after it's done resolving there's nothing allowing you to cast those spells.

Eh
Wealth must resolve first. The second part of wealth couldn't happen until the spell resolves.

Once wealth resolves, you may cast any number of those spells.

Lands are not cast.
Title: Re: Villainous wealth
Post by: Kaylesh on May 05, 2015, 03:05:04 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on May 05, 2015, 01:29:23 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on May 03, 2015, 04:43:08 PM
Quote from: redwolv on May 03, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
must the cards exiled by {villainous wealth} be cast right then? I ask cause of cards like {outpost seige} say you only have till EoT. But VW does not give a time frame.

There are probably better examples then seige but it was the first one to come to mind.
Siege says that because it sticks around.
Wealth only gives you permission to cast while it's resolving - after it's done resolving there's nothing allowing you to cast those spells.

Eh
Wealth must resolve first. The second part of wealth couldn't happen until the spell resolves.

Once wealth resolves, you may cast any number of those spells.

Lands are not cast.
According to the gatherer rulings you actually cast them as part of the resolution. See above.
Title: Re: Villainous wealth
Post by: griffin131 on May 05, 2015, 08:21:12 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on May 05, 2015, 01:29:23 AM
Quote from: griffin131 on May 03, 2015, 04:43:08 PM
Quote from: redwolv on May 03, 2015, 03:12:00 PM
must the cards exiled by {villainous wealth} be cast right then? I ask cause of cards like {outpost seige} say you only have till EoT. But VW does not give a time frame.

There are probably better examples then seige but it was the first one to come to mind.
Siege says that because it sticks around.
Wealth only gives you permission to cast while it's resolving - after it's done resolving there's nothing allowing you to cast those spells.

Eh
Wealth must resolve first. The second part of wealth couldn't happen until the spell resolves.

Once wealth resolves, you may cast any number of those spells.

Lands are not cast.
Incorrect. The spells are cast (added to the stack) as part of Wealth's resolution. They can't resolve until Wealth is done resolving, but they're definitely added to the stack before it's done.