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Title: Esper Control
Post by: bravado883 on April 20, 2015, 02:05:18 PM
Esper Control

60 cards, 15 sideboard


4 {Temple of Deceit}
4 {Temple of Enlightenment}
3 {Swamp}
2 {Dismal Backwater}
1 {Caves of Koilos}
1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
4 {Polluted Delta}
3 {Island}
4 {Temple of Silence}

26 lands


2 {Silumgar, the Drifting Death}
2 {Dragonlord Ojutai}

4 creatures


4 {Silumgar's Scorn}
3 {Crux of Fate}
1 {Foul-Tongue Invocation}
2 {Narset Transcendent}
3 {Dig Through Time}
1 {Utter End}
1 {Dragonlord's Prerogative}
2 {Anticipate}
4 {Hero's Downfall}
4 {Dissolve}
3 {Ultimate Price}
2 {Thoughtseize}

30 other spells

Sideboard

1 {Dragonlord Silumgar}
1 {Utter End}
1 {Thoughtseize}
1 {Ultimate Price}
4 {Drown in Sorrow}
1 {Narset Transcendent}
1 {Foul-Tongue Invocation}
1 {Pearl Lake Ancient}
1 {Virulent Plague}
1 {Dragonlord's Prerogative}
2 {Negate}

15 sideboard cards



Notes:

Title: Re: Esper Control
Post by: Mattao19 on April 20, 2015, 06:14:36 PM
I'd go:

-2 Narset
-1 Ult. Price

+2 {Icefall Regent}
+1 {Dragonlords Perogative}
Title: Re: Esper Control
Post by: Estel2931 on April 20, 2015, 07:35:39 PM
I'd go -1 {Anticipate}, -1 {Ultimate Price}

+1 {Ugin, the Spirit Dragon}, +1 {Bile Blight}

I played a very similar deck at FNM this past week. {Anticipate}, I wasn't too happy with to be honest. Don't get me wrong, its a nice card, but normally id have removal or counter magic in my hand turns 2 through 5. So normally I'd cast {Dig Through Time} before I'd cast {Anticipate}.

Ugin is just a house and the {Bile Blight} is just really good against a lot of ramping/rdw.

I run Narset in my deck and she alone won me some games this past FNM. A lot of people don't like her and I can understand their point, but to me, she is worth playing. I had reservations about playing her before FNM started, but after playing her I feel confident mainboarding her.

Just my 2 cents :)
Title: Re: Esper Control
Post by: Mattao19 on April 20, 2015, 08:43:29 PM
That's true but no offense but FNM doesn't mean too much :P

I play UW Control and I run 3 anticipate and 4 dig and have been happy with it.

Narset can be good but remember it doesn't affect the board state and it takes 2-3 turns to do anything. Once you get to the point where you rebound a dig or something I feel like you have already won that game lol
Title: Re: Esper Control
Post by: Estel2931 on April 20, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
No offense taken because you are right lol.

I agree and disagree with your view of Narset. Her +1 normally grabs me a card (scry lands work well with her) and I don't use her -2 just for dig...it works really well with foul tongue and really most everything in the deck. To each his/her own though.

I'm going to test variations of the deck out to see if I like it with/without her more :)
Title: Re: Esper Control
Post by: Mattao19 on April 20, 2015, 10:58:26 PM
That's true I'm just using Dig as an example. I just don't like her bc she feels like either a win more or a maybe draw a card. Like if you're behind on the board she does little to help you recover from behind
Title: Re: Esper Control
Post by: Estel2931 on April 21, 2015, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on April 20, 2015, 10:58:26 PM
That's true I'm just using Dig as an example. I just don't like her bc she feels like either a win more or a maybe draw a card. Like if you're behind on the board she does little to help you recover from behind

I understand. But I had a few times where I was behind on the board and rebounded a ultimate price or a foul tongue...I get what you mean though about instant board presence. When she works, she works; when she doesn't work, you wasted a card slot.
Title: Re: Esper Control
Post by: Estel2931 on April 21, 2015, 07:27:04 AM
For {Thoughtsieze}, if you main it, I'd run 2 or 3 copies. I think I main 2 and keep one in the sideboard. I bring in the extra copy against control/ any midrange or whip deck.
Title: Re: Esper Control
Post by: Mattao19 on April 21, 2015, 10:32:42 AM
Fair enough Narset is sweet but I'd cut her if I was going to a tourney :)

Also just realized that you're running 25 land I don't think I'd go below 26 and even that's stretching it ..
Title: Re: Esper Control
Post by: Mattao19 on April 21, 2015, 12:06:55 PM
Fair enough :) agree to disagree :D (that's the beauty of magic deck building tbh neither of us are right and neither are wrong it's whatever fits your play style/comfort level :D)
Title: Re: Esper Control
Post by: Mattao19 on April 21, 2015, 12:39:29 PM
Sure thing gimme a few mins :D