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Title: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 05, 2015, 10:12:40 PM
So I went up against a {Oona queen of the something} combo deck a few weeks back and it was pretty awesome. It wasn't the smoothest thing out there, but it made me kinda think how awesome a commander can be. He was running a bunch of search and draw to find his infinite mana combo pieces, then he would cast his commander and exile your library, pass turn and you'd lose when you went to draw. I decided I'd try and brew a similar deck and need a bit of help. I know my combos: {power artifact} and {basalt monolith}/{grim monolith} makes infinite colorless mana

{palinchron} and {caged sun}/{gauntlet of power}/{high tide}/{extraplanar lense}/{deadeye navigator} makes infinite blue/black mana

{great whale} and {deadeye navigator} makes infinite colored mana

{basalt monolith}/{grim monolith} and {rings of brighthearth}

What I need to know is; What else does a combo deck need?
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: JordanCirk on April 05, 2015, 10:27:47 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 05, 2015, 10:12:40 PM
So I went up against a {Oona queen of the something} combo deck a few weeks back and it was pretty awesome. It wasn't the smoothest thing out there, but it made me kinda think how awesome a commander can be. He was running a bunch of search and draw to find his infinite mana combo pieces, then he would cast his commander and exile your library, pass turn and you'd lose when you went to draw. I decided I'd try and brew a similar deck and need a bit of help. I know my combos: {power artifact} and {basalt monolith}/{grim monolith} makes infinite colorless mana

{palinchron} and {caged sun}/{gauntlet of power}/{high tide}/{extraplanar lense}/{deadeye navigator} makes infinite blue/black mana

{great whale} and {deadeye navigator} makes infinite colored mana

{basalt monolith}/{grim monolith} and {rings of brighthearth}

What I need to know is; What else does a combo deck need?
Good tutors ( {Demonic Tutor}, {Diabolic Tutor}, {Vampiric Tutor}, {Mystical Tutor}), good card draw ( {Blue Sun's Zenith},  {Consecrated Sphinx}, {Rhystic Study}, {Mystic Remora}), and good counters ( {Force of Will}, {Rewind}, {Counterspell}, {Mana Drain})

Of course most of these cards have cheaper substituts but it just helps to have the good ones. Hope any of this helps! Oona's a crazy card, someone in our meta has one too!
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Kaalia with haste on April 05, 2015, 10:31:40 PM
Control things like propaganda, damnation, and toxic deluge
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Munchlax on April 05, 2015, 10:32:06 PM
My meta is void of Oona, unfortunately. I like the thought of the deck though. Other things to consider would be {Scion of Oona} and {Spellstutter Sprite}.
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 05, 2015, 11:29:31 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on April 05, 2015, 10:32:06 PM
My meta is void of Oona, unfortunately. I like the thought of the deck though. Other things to consider would be {Scion of Oona} and {Spellstutter Sprite}.
Tribalish faerie combo? Very cool
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 06, 2015, 03:29:36 AM
Made a list if you guys want to see it
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Splicer on April 06, 2015, 09:36:32 AM
Where is it?
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Kaalia with haste on April 06, 2015, 10:43:39 AM
Quote from: Splicer on April 06, 2015, 09:36:32 AM
Where is it?
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 06, 2015, 11:25:10 AM
I'll post it here
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 06, 2015, 11:26:16 AM
Oona

100 cards, 0 sideboard


1 {Oona, Queen of the Fae}
1 {Watery Grave}
1 {Darksteel Citadel}
1 {Lonely Sandbar}
9 {Swamp}
1 {Seat of the Synod}
1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
1 {Underground River}
1 {Temple of Deceit}
1 {Vault of Whispers}
1 {Polluted Delta}
17 {Island}
1 {Academy Ruins}
1 {Sunken Ruins}
1 {Barren Moor}

38 lands


1 {Rune-Scarred Demon}
1 {Clever Impersonator}
1 {Trinket Mage}
1 {Consecrated Sphinx}
1 {Arcanis the Omnipotent}
1 {Thassa, God of the Sea}
1 {Solemn Simulacrum}
1 {Palinchron}
1 {Deadeye Navigator}
1 {Glen Elendra Archmage}
1 {Phyrexian Metamorph}
1 {Great Whale}
1 {Erebos, God of the Dead}

13 creatures


1 {Tezzeret the Seeker}
1 {Cyclonic Rift}
1 {Fabricate}
1 {Staff of Domination}
1 {Grim Monolith}
1 {Mystic Remora}
1 {Jace Beleren}
1 {Trickbind}
1 {Gauntlet of Power}
1 {Worn Powerstone}
1 {Sensei's Divining Top}
1 {Caged Sun}
1 {Darksteel Ingot}
1 {Brainstorm}
1 {Intuition}
1 {High Tide}
1 {Serum Visions}
1 {Acquire}
1 {Dire Undercurrents}
1 {Counterspell}
1 {Copy Artifact}
1 {Gilded Lotus}
1 {Evacuation}
1 {Vampiric Tutor}
1 {Basalt Monolith}
1 {Rings of Brighthearth}
1 {Preordain}
1 {Swan Song}
1 {Voltaic Key}
1 {Dissipate}
1 {Ponder}
1 {Scroll Rack}
1 {Stifle}
1 {Extraplanar Lens}
1 {Mana Vault}
1 {Blue Sun's Zenith}
1 {Phyrexian Arena}
1 {Demonic Tutor}
1 {Vampiric Tutor}
1 {Toxic Deluge}
1 {Rhystic Study}
1 {Ill-Gotten Gains}
1 {Thran Dynamo}
1 {Black Sun's Zenith}
1 {Sol Ring}
1 {Cruel Tutor}
1 {All Is Dust}
1 {Power Artifact}

48 other spells


Sideboard
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: JordanCirk on April 06, 2015, 12:22:35 PM
Seems pretty solid. Some suggestions :
{Riptide Laboratory}: incase they try to kill oona
{Volrath's Stronghold}: works great with cards like  {Rune-Scarred Demon}
{Archfiend of Depravity}: destroys decks that play multiple creatures.
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Munchlax on April 06, 2015, 05:05:01 PM
If you need to get the parts to this deck, I've got a great whale
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 06, 2015, 11:58:51 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on April 06, 2015, 12:22:35 PM
Seems pretty solid. Some suggestions :
{Riptide Laboratory}: incase they try to kill oona
{Volrath's Stronghold}: works great with cards like  {Rune-Scarred Demon}
{Archfiend of Depravity}: destroys decks that play multiple creatures.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to try and make this a really competitive deck. I have a few casual one, but if there is a guy playing a "win every game with a combo" deck I want to be able to pull this out and reck face lol.
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: JordanCirk on April 07, 2015, 12:25:32 AM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 06, 2015, 11:58:51 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on April 06, 2015, 12:22:35 PM
Seems pretty solid. Some suggestions :
{Riptide Laboratory}: incase they try to kill oona
{Volrath's Stronghold}: works great with cards like  {Rune-Scarred Demon}
{Archfiend of Depravity}: destroys decks that play multiple creatures.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to try and make this a really competitive deck. I have a few casual one, but if there is a guy playing a "win every game with a combo" deck I want to be able to pull this out and reck face lol.
I completely understand, and your welcome!
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 07, 2015, 12:29:21 PM
Cut {dimir cluestone} for {ill-gotten gains} to recover my combo if it gets destroyed in some way

Also want to add {mystic tutor} but I don't know what to cut for it. I'm thinking thassa.
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on April 07, 2015, 01:48:42 PM
Why not add the {Duskmantle Guildmage}/{Mindcrank} combo?
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 07, 2015, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on April 07, 2015, 01:48:42 PM
Why not add the {Duskmantle Guildmage}/{Mindcrank} combo?
Because adding another combo will muddle things and I'd rather use the mana combos to win with my commander.
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: rarehuntertay on April 07, 2015, 02:38:12 PM
In other words, he doesn't want to  {Muddle the Mixture}...
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: the_intelligentleman on April 07, 2015, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on April 07, 2015, 02:38:12 PM
In other words, he doesn't want to  {Muddle the Mixture}...
*standing ovation*
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: JordanCirk on April 07, 2015, 06:18:58 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 07, 2015, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on April 07, 2015, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on April 07, 2015, 02:38:12 PM
In other words, he doesn't want to  {Muddle the Mixture}...
*standing ovation*

This

11/10
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Munchlax on April 07, 2015, 07:50:19 PM
Quote from: JordanCirk on April 07, 2015, 06:18:58 PM
Quote from: Taysby on April 07, 2015, 03:31:54 PM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on April 07, 2015, 03:23:27 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on April 07, 2015, 02:38:12 PM
In other words, he doesn't want to  {Muddle the Mixture}...
*standing ovation*

This

11/10

On a scale of one to great, that was a 12
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Munchlax on April 07, 2015, 09:16:38 PM
{Ambassador Laquatas} if your general becomes Uber expensive or if you want a quicker game
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 07, 2015, 09:18:03 PM
I have enough ramp and combo to cast my commander easily
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Munchlax on April 07, 2015, 10:02:37 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 07, 2015, 09:18:03 PM
I have enough ramp and combo to cast my commander easily
But alt win con that is the same
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 07, 2015, 10:19:39 PM
Most of the people at the shop I play at have things like {kozilek butcher of truth} so infinite mill won't really work unfortunately.
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Munchlax on April 07, 2015, 11:08:42 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 07, 2015, 10:19:39 PM
Most of the people at the shop I play at have things like {kozilek butcher of truth} so infinite mill won't really work unfortunately.
But it's an alternate win con because everyone else concedes or dies of old age because the reshuffle into mill is too long
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: JordanCirk on April 07, 2015, 11:11:30 PM
Quote from: Spencer Addington on April 07, 2015, 10:19:39 PM
Most of the people at the shop I play at have things like {kozilek butcher of truth} so infinite mill won't really work unfortunately.
Get cards that can remove the card with the trigger on the stack, like  {Withered Wretch}.
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Spencer Addington on April 07, 2015, 11:12:44 PM
Thus muddling the deck
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Deathstorm on May 27, 2015, 05:45:48 PM
What about a {relearn}
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: LinkCelestrial on May 27, 2015, 06:03:55 PM
{Muddle the Mixture} would actually be great in this deck. There's also {Long-Term Plans}.
Title: Re: Oona combo: What goes in a combo deck besides the combo?
Post by: Kaylesh on May 28, 2015, 02:52:44 AM
Rereading this I just realized Oona EXILES. I was wondering about the mill discussion going on, but finally I figured! :0