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Title: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Swamplord99 on April 05, 2015, 11:38:29 AM
I'm pondering over buying the budget deck bw warrior on mtgvault but i don't know if it will be good. Is it good?
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Thetrufflehunter on April 05, 2015, 11:41:13 AM
Link?
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Silent1236 on April 05, 2015, 12:06:37 PM
I've always been disappointed when buying budget decks that aren't burn. They just don't seem to do very well.
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Swamplord99 on April 05, 2015, 12:40:16 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on April 05, 2015, 12:06:37 PM
I've always been disappointed when buying budget decks that aren't burn. They just don't seem to do very well.
There is a burn one that looks good, maybe il get that one instead
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Heats Flamesman on April 05, 2015, 12:55:19 PM
What format? If it's Legacy (or vintage but I doubt that) then budget besides Delver, Burn, and kind of Eggs doesn't really work, if it's modern or standard it might
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Silent1236 on April 05, 2015, 02:01:30 PM
Quote from: Swamplord99 on April 05, 2015, 12:40:16 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on April 05, 2015, 12:06:37 PM
I've always been disappointed when buying budget decks that aren't burn. They just don't seem to do very well.
There is a burn one that looks good, maybe il get that one instead

Burn is pretty good, but I personally just think it's boring to play. Totally just my play style, though.
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Heats Flamesman on April 05, 2015, 02:02:17 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on April 05, 2015, 02:01:30 PM
Quote from: Swamplord99 on April 05, 2015, 12:40:16 PM
Quote from: Silent1236 on April 05, 2015, 12:06:37 PM
I've always been disappointed when buying budget decks that aren't burn. They just don't seem to do very well.
There is a burn one that looks good, maybe il get that one instead

Burn is pretty good, but I personally just think it's boring to play. Totally just my play style, though.
Yeah, it's really easy. A pretty beginner deck when starting/switching formats.
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: griffin131 on April 05, 2015, 04:09:05 PM
I disagree. That's like saying Agro is easy, or control is easy.
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Heats Flamesman on April 05, 2015, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on April 05, 2015, 04:09:05 PM
I disagree. That's like saying Agro is easy, or control is easy.
Comparatively? In formats like legacy, it is easy.
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on April 05, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on April 05, 2015, 04:09:05 PM
I disagree. That's like saying Agro is easy, or control is easy.
It is a relatively easy deck to play, the only complexities spring from sequencing. Its a deck where the win rate between a novice and a master is quite close, and matchups are many times decided by opponent preparedness. Aggro is more complex because it offers a lot more decision trees, and control (depending upon the format and build) is also more complex. Deck difficulty should be measured by the spread between a novice's win rate and a master, and I guarantee the spread for Miracles or even Jund is higher than it is for burn
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Dsx Cherno on April 05, 2015, 06:11:03 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on April 05, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Quote from: griffin131 on April 05, 2015, 04:09:05 PM
I disagree. That's like saying Agro is easy, or control is easy.
It is a relatively easy deck to play, the only complexities spring from sequencing. Its a deck where the win rate between a novice and a master is quite close, and matchups are many times decided by opponent preparedness. Aggro is more complex because it offers a lot more decision trees, and control (depending upon the format and build) is also more complex. Deck difficulty should be measured by the spread between a novice's win rate and a master, and I guarantee the spread for Miracles or even Jund is higher than it is for burn

Well said, sir
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: General Kiwi on April 06, 2015, 11:15:14 AM
If your buying for fun go crazy if it is to be competitive I would pass and look at other decks. Warriors in what I assume standard look good on paper but they are often lacking against the bigger match ups.
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Dsx Cherno on April 06, 2015, 12:33:11 PM
Quote from: General Kiwi on April 06, 2015, 11:15:14 AM
If your buying for fun go crazy if it is to be competitive I would pass and look at other decks. Warriors in what I assume standard look good on paper but they are often lacking against the bigger match ups.

A guy at my LGS went 4-1 on a BW warrior deck standard. And he didn't even have some of the major heavy hitters either. One he got out a couple {chief of the edge}, it was game over. Most his guys had deathtouch, and he had the "warriors can be blocked by only 2 or more creatures". His one loss was from RDW, and all the games were very close.
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: General Kiwi on April 06, 2015, 08:08:23 PM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on April 06, 2015, 12:33:11 PM
Quote from: General Kiwi on April 06, 2015, 11:15:14 AM
If your buying for fun go crazy if it is to be competitive I would pass and look at other decks. Warriors in what I assume standard look good on paper but they are often lacking against the bigger match ups.

A guy at my LGS went 4-1 on a BW warrior deck standard. And he didn't even have some of the major heavy hitters either. One he got out a couple {chief of the edge}, it was game over. Most his guys had deathtouch, and he had the "warriors can be blocked by only 2 or more creatures". His one loss was from RDW, and all the games were very close.
I wish I could have seen that
Title: Re: Buy it yes or no
Post by: Dsx Cherno on April 06, 2015, 08:57:18 PM
He did great. Warriors can be played well, in competitive matchings.