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Abzan Aggro! 75 cards, 15 sideboard 1 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} 1 {Twilight Mire} 1 {Vault of the Archangel} 1 {Swamp} 1 {Plains} 2 {Godless Shrine} 3 {Forest} 2 {Overgrown Tomb} 2 {Temple Garden} 1 {Sunpetal Grove} 2 {Verdant Catacombs} 2 {Gavony Township} 4 {Windswept Heath} 23 lands 2 {Knight of the Reliquary} 2 {Qasali Pridemage} 3 {Loxodon Smiter} 3 {Kitchen Finks} 3 {Wilt-Leaf Liege} 4 {Voice of Resurgence} 4 {Siege Rhino} 4 {Noble Hierarch} 4 {Birds of Paradise} 29 creatures 4 {Path to Exile} 4 {Lingering Souls} 8 other spells Sideboard 1 {Surgical Extraction} 2 {Abrupt Decay} 1 {Zealous Persecution} 2 {Hero's Downfall} 1 {Stain the Mind} 2 {Leyline of Lifeforce} 2 {Stony Silence} 2 {Leyline of Sanctity} 2 {Fracturing Gust} 15 sideboard cards Notes: Running this at a PPTQ today! Wish me luck!!!

You got this! :)

Probably want {Liliana of the Veil} in here

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 28, 2015, 12:53:06 PM
Probably want {Liliana of the Veil} in here

Don't have one, but if I win(right now 3-0) im gonna pick up two

I also like my knight in this deck to find the vault of the archangel in the mirror match!

Quote from: Codester1991 on March 28, 2015, 03:56:22 PM

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 28, 2015, 12:53:06 PM
Probably want {Liliana of the Veil} in here

Don't have one, but if I win(right now 3-0) im gonna pick up two

Go you!

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 28, 2015, 03:58:38 PM

Quote from: Codester1991 on March 28, 2015, 03:56:22 PM

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 28, 2015, 12:53:06 PM
Probably want {Liliana of the Veil} in here

Don't have one, but if I win(right now 3-0) im gonna pick up two

Go you!

Lost one, but 5th with the best win percentage in the tournament so I can draw out and make top 8

Got 4th at the PPTQ guys, was fun for my first big event lol lost to freaking amulet in top 8

Quote from: Codester1991 on March 28, 2015, 08:20:24 PM
Got 4th at the PPTQ guys, was fun for my first big event lol lost to freaking amulet in top 8

Just noticed the disturbing lack of thoughtsiezes in your list... That's probably why

Also, I think your sideboard could use some reworking. If you have the cash {Fulminator Mage} definitely seems good here, same with {Kor Firewalker} for burn. I think its probably better than leyline of sanctity here

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 28, 2015, 08:33:24 PM

Quote from: Codester1991 on March 28, 2015, 08:20:24 PM
Got 4th at the PPTQ guys, was fun for my first big event lol lost to freaking amulet in top 8

Just noticed the disturbing lack of thoughtsiezes in your list... That's probably why

Also, I think your sideboard could use some reworking. If you have the cash {Fulminator Mage} definitely seems good here, same with {Kor Firewalker} for burn. I think its probably better than leyline of sanctity here

Disagree about {Kor Firewalker} over {Leyline of Sanctity}. Leyline can come down T1, and is also good vs Mill, some versions of Delver and a few other decks.

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 28, 2015, 10:29:25 PM

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 28, 2015, 08:33:24 PM

Quote from: Codester1991 on March 28, 2015, 08:20:24 PM
Got 4th at the PPTQ guys, was fun for my first big event lol lost to freaking amulet in top 8

Just noticed the disturbing lack of thoughtsiezes in your list... That's probably why

Also, I think your sideboard could use some reworking. If you have the cash {Fulminator Mage} definitely seems good here, same with {Kor Firewalker} for burn. I think its probably better than leyline of sanctity here

Disagree about {Kor Firewalker} over {Leyline of Sanctity}. Leyline can come down T1, and is also good vs Mill, some versions of Delver and a few other decks.

Idk it could go either way but most burn is now prepared for leyline and Firewalker is harder to deal with. Also, since this is an aggro deck Firewalker can attack. It could go either way.

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 28, 2015, 10:41:10 PM

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 28, 2015, 10:29:25 PM

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 28, 2015, 08:33:24 PM

Quote from: Codester1991 on March 28, 2015, 08:20:24 PM
Got 4th at the PPTQ guys, was fun for my first big event lol lost to freaking amulet in top 8

Just noticed the disturbing lack of thoughtsiezes in your list... That's probably why

Also, I think your sideboard could use some reworking. If you have the cash {Fulminator Mage} definitely seems good here, same with {Kor Firewalker} for burn. I think its probably better than leyline of sanctity here

Disagree about {Kor Firewalker} over {Leyline of Sanctity}. Leyline can come down T1, and is also good vs Mill, some versions of Delver and a few other decks.

Idk it could go either way but most burn is now prepared for leyline and Firewalker is harder to deal with. Also, since this is an aggro deck Firewalker can attack. It could go either way.

Why not both?

Guys you need to 1. Learn the meta (mill is not a thing) 2. Know your lists. This list is what Jacob Wilson Top 8ed a PT with that's why there's a lack of T seize (JWs list ran 2 mb 2 SB but still)

Anyways grats on the Top 4!

Quote from: Mattao19 on March 28, 2015, 11:23:30 PM
Guys you need to 1. Learn the meta (mill is not a thing) 2. Know your lists. This list is what Jacob Wilson Top 8ed a PT with that's why there's a lack of T seize (JWs list ran 2 mb 2 SB but still)

Anyways grats on the Top 4!

Exactly. Wilson was playing 4 in his 75 and the list here has none. That explains the loss to amulet bloom, a linear combo deck, which needs hand disruption to win against. Also, I was not the one mentioning mill. That sounded kinda accusing and insulting to both of us. If it wasn't, then sorry that was how I interpreted it.

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 28, 2015, 11:53:43 PM

Quote from: Mattao19 on March 28, 2015, 11:23:30 PM
Guys you need to 1. Learn the meta (mill is not a thing) 2. Know your lists. This list is what Jacob Wilson Top 8ed a PT with that's why there's a lack of T seize (JWs list ran 2 mb 2 SB but still)

Anyways grats on the Top 4!

Exactly. Wilson was playing 4 in his 75 and the list here has none. That explains the loss to amulet bloom, a linear combo deck, which needs hand disruption to win against. Also, I was not the one mentioning mill. That sounded kinda accusing and insulting to both of us. If it wasn't, then sorry that was how I interpreted it.

True it has a lack of but as a player, I just don't use the card. It's never appealed to me whatsoever so even when I have it in hand in practice games I never use it also when I did all the other guys have is land 😂 lol anyways, I don't like it lol Idk why but Id rather just beat you down and destroy anything else with big green white things

Edit: also I found {knight of the reliquary} to find {vault of the archangel} is just too damn good and today, vault won against the abzan control with 4 goyfs on the board sooo I didn't mind lol

Quote from: Mattao19 on March 28, 2015, 11:23:30 PM
Guys you need to 1. Learn the meta (mill is not a thing) 2. Know your lists. This list is what Jacob Wilson Top 8ed a PT with that's why there's a lack of T seize (JWs list ran 2 mb 2 SB but still)

Anyways grats on the Top 4!

Mill may not be "a thing", but it's still a deck. I'm not really one for knowing the meta cause I'm always playing rouge decks on untap. Is it wrong to be prepared for a rouge deck or two? I was mentioning mill because it's the style of deck Leyline is good against. I also forgot to mention that Leyline also shuts down hand disruption.

Know our lists? Really? It's such and such a list so it doesn't have TS even though the list you said it is has 2 MB, 2 SB. You contradicted yourself and it turns out he's not running them for personal reasons.

Quote from: Codester1991 on March 29, 2015, 01:11:42 AM

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 28, 2015, 11:53:43 PM

Quote from: Mattao19 on March 28, 2015, 11:23:30 PM
Guys you need to 1. Learn the meta (mill is not a thing) 2. Know your lists. This list is what Jacob Wilson Top 8ed a PT with that's why there's a lack of T seize (JWs list ran 2 mb 2 SB but still)

Anyways grats on the Top 4!

Exactly. Wilson was playing 4 in his 75 and the list here has none. That explains the loss to amulet bloom, a linear combo deck, which needs hand disruption to win against. Also, I was not the one mentioning mill. That sounded kinda accusing and insulting to both of us. If it wasn't, then sorry that was how I interpreted it.

True it has a lack of but as a player, I just don't use the card. It's never appealed to me whatsoever so even when I have it in hand in practice games I never use it also when I did all the other guys have is land 😂 lol anyways, I don't like it lol Idk why but Id rather just beat you down and destroy anything else with big green white things

Edit: also I found {knight of the reliquary} to find {vault of the archangel} is just too damn good and today, vault won against the abzan control with 4 goyfs on the board sooo I didn't mind lol

I think your experiences with thoughtseize have been non-representative of what the card can do. It's been considered the force of will of modern. There are decks that just lose to the card

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 29, 2015, 02:49:21 PM

Quote from: Codester1991 on March 29, 2015, 01:11:42 AM

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 28, 2015, 11:53:43 PM

Quote from: Mattao19 on March 28, 2015, 11:23:30 PM
Guys you need to 1. Learn the meta (mill is not a thing) 2. Know your lists. This list is what Jacob Wilson Top 8ed a PT with that's why there's a lack of T seize (JWs list ran 2 mb 2 SB but still)

Anyways grats on the Top 4!

Exactly. Wilson was playing 4 in his 75 and the list here has none. That explains the loss to amulet bloom, a linear combo deck, which needs hand disruption to win against. Also, I was not the one mentioning mill. That sounded kinda accusing and insulting to both of us. If it wasn't, then sorry that was how I interpreted it.

True it has a lack of but as a player, I just don't use the card. It's never appealed to me whatsoever so even when I have it in hand in practice games I never use it also when I did all the other guys have is land 😂 lol anyways, I don't like it lol Idk why but Id rather just beat you down and destroy anything else with big green white things

Edit: also I found {knight of the reliquary} to find {vault of the archangel} is just too damn good and today, vault won against the abzan control with 4 goyfs on the board sooo I didn't mind lol

I think your experiences with thoughtseize have been non-representative of what the card can do. It's been considered the force of will of modern. There are decks that just lose to the card

Force of will of modern? Idk that may be a pretty far stretch there.

It's the closest thing. It's moderns best answer to fast combo decks.

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 31, 2015, 12:46:44 PM
It's the closest thing. It's moderns best answer to fast combo decks.

Besides a faster combo deck.

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 31, 2015, 12:53:26 PM

Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 31, 2015, 12:46:44 PM
It's the closest thing. It's moderns best answer to fast combo decks.

True

Besides a faster combo deck.

Fact of the matter is there's plenty of decks that don't run it that get by fine, and who knows maybe after a while I may consider running it again. But one card doesn't make a deck, this deck is powerful and I only lost to amulet really because I got crap draws was either all mana or no mana, mulliganned down to 3-4 each time. I've played against amulet plenty of times in my meta at our LGS.

What do yall think of Aether Vial??? Instead of knight of the relinquary

I like the deck but where are the goyfs?

Quote from: General Kiwi on April 02, 2015, 08:08:45 PM
I like the deck but where are the goyfs?

At the store because ain't no way I'm paying 700 bucks for 4 pieces of cardboard lol until I win enough money from magic that's when I'll get em lol And considering I was 8th and knocked out the guy in the first place chair that was running goyfs, I don't see why I really need em :)

Tbh they aren't worth in this deck it's not this decks style. Plus if Jacob Wilson didn't add them why should we? Lol